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Offline AmigaNG

Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« on: March 01, 2011, 03:51:47 PM »
Looks like due to the recent Settlement between Amiga Inc and Cloanto
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91183272&pty=OPP

CommodoreUSA is no longer using Workbench 5 as the name.  :) Once again proving that C=USA using names before they checked weather they could use it.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx

From the forum:-
"Well, as you may have realised we were never firm on the name of our Commodore OS. So Commodore OS it is.
Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.
It is definitely stronger than the Workbench name also.
It probably didn't make much sense as the name of the OS on the C64x and we were thinking of calling that Commodore OS anyway.
Our initial thoughts were to go with Commodore OS, well before we got the Amiga trademark licensed.
I am greatly relieved at the outcome actually, as the Workbench name gave rise to an immense amount of fanciful expectations of what our OS will be.
"

Now I'm just wondering does this mean Cloanto now could use the name? Amiga Forever renamed Workbench 5  :eek:

Who actually own Workbench name and who can use it?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 04:03:15 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;618634
Looks like due to the recent Settlement between Amiga Inc and Cloanto
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91183272&pty=OPP

CommodoreUSA is no longer using Workbench 5 as the name.  :) Once again proving that C=USA using names before they checked weather they could use it.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx

From the forum:-
"Well, as you may have realised we were never firm on the name of our Commodore OS. So Commodore OS it is.
Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.
It is definitely stronger than the Workbench name also.
It probably didn't make much sense as the name of the OS on the C64x and we were thinking of calling that Commodore OS anyway.
Our initial thoughts were to go with Commodore OS, well before we got the Amiga trademark licensed.
I am greatly relieved at the outcome actually, as the Workbench name gave rise to an immense amount of fanciful expectations of what our OS will be.
"

Now I'm just wondering does this mean Cloanto now could use the name? Amiga Forever renamed Workbench 5  :eek:

Who actually own Workbench name and who can use it?


Commodore Amiga own it in Iran and the rest of the free world.
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Offline Franko

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 04:19:39 PM »
Awe naw... :(

Another ruddy thread about bullshit... :(
 

Offline klx300r

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 04:19:57 PM »
well it's a small step in the right direction & this will make amigans less sour about their PC's with Linux skins
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Offline number6

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 04:37:04 PM »
Quote from: Franko;618637
Awe naw... :(

Another ruddy thread about bullshit... :(



Send a thank you note to amiga management, who has made all of this possible.

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Offline jorkany

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 04:40:14 PM »
Quote from: number6;618641
Send a thank you note to amiga management, who has made all of this possible.

#6


It's debatable as to who to address that email to.
 

Offline mpiva

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 04:44:54 PM »
I love how they try to spin their loss to their favor.  They sound just like my kids:

"Well fine, you boobyhead! I never wanted that name in the first place.  You can have your stupid name.  Commodore OS is a way better name anyway.  That's was I was going to use anyway.  I just said Workbench 5 'cause I... um... I... well.. just to bug you. 'Cause you're a boobyhead! Now leave me alone so I can go sulk in the corner."

 :roflmao:
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Offline number6

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 04:45:19 PM »
Quote from: jorkany;618642
It's debatable as to who to address that email to.



Reply to addressbook #? all.
Recursive should cover the sub-directories nicely.

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Offline dammy

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 05:03:09 PM »
Commodore OS is the name currently but it is subject to change.
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Offline vox

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 05:08:35 PM »
Show they still brain (but no Amiga heart).
Well, first Commodo appeared on their web site, we used to joke its antivirus.

Makes no difference their big skinning has other name to their project.
AmigaOS 5 (and Workbench 5) can only be result of progress of OS 4.0

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Offline vox

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 05:09:52 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;618636
Commodore Amiga own it in Iran and the rest of the free world.


Double dat!
Some of the retired dictators will be hired to help their worldwide domination :-)

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Offline vox

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 05:18:39 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;618634

Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.


Another sad case of their wild self exponations that generaly inslut AmigaOS and Amigas. There has been no CBM 64/128 related products aside from emulation joystick and boards, C64x is still a repacked ITX or small ATX modern PC clone board, while Amiga boards and AmigaOS are on sale and in development. Classic time Commodore Amiga brend was result of both, as Commodore USA and Commodore USA Amiga brands are result of nothing but licence purchase.

Hope this kind of their propaganda will not make much Amiga related news, now we are at least free to use our trademarks.

Last petition was to ask that they note use exact numeration of models, and they would be left to live with their fantasies. Mind that they have purchased just licence to use Amiga name in All In One computers like Phoenix and their Commodore64x

A petition was set to POLITELY ask CUSA to change their Amiga naming convention.

Text is

To: Commodore USA

It has come to our attention that Commodore USA is about to launch a new line of "AMIGA(tm)" branded computers using the classic Amiga(tm) naming convention. These new computers have absolutely nothing in common with the old Amiga(tm) computers other than the name.

By the reuse of the classic Amiga(tm) names we firmly believe that this will confuse potential users of the AmigaOS(tm) platforms, i.e. the AmigaONE(tm) line of computers.

Your "Amiga 1000x" model for instance will most likley be confused with the "AmigaONE X1000" from A-EON. The Amiga community today is focused around the AmigaOS and its derivatives. While Commodore USA might not see this as a primary market a lot of work both commercial and non-profitable has been put into the success of the Next Generation AmigaOS and the AmigaONE hardware. That is why the sudden introduction of a new Commodore branded Amiga 1000x could be seen as a way to buy into this success.

This is the reason why we wholeheartedly appeal to you to reconsider using the old classic Amiga numbering in your new line of Commodore Amigas.
Sincerely,

Link is
http://www.petitiononline.com/newamiga/petition.html

Knowing their PR, I doubt even strong petition would influence them,
but I have signed it.

My objection is not only confusion to AmigaOne series, but to Amiga Classics.

Some people still use Classics, and they are not reproducing Classic models of any kind. Having EXACT same name of the old and new model IS confusion (e.g. how to threat it on Wikipedia etc.). However, knowing it will be simple PC`s I doubt they will also ever enter Amiga history pages or Wikipedia articles: they have nothing to do with AmigaOS`s which is real Amiga criteria.
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Offline jorkany

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 05:23:34 PM »
Quote from: vox;618652
Your "Amiga 1000x" model for instance will most likley be confused with the "AmigaONE X1000" from A-EON.

This is like confusing the Tooth Fairy with the Easter Bunny.
 

Offline vox

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 05:30:18 PM »
Whoever made petition made a bad example.

But Commodore Amiga 1000 is easy to confuse with Comoodre USA Amiga 1000, special if later has no USA in name.

It for sure isnt this computer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nwJMjhiwM
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Offline kolla

Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 06:17:42 PM »
So when will Cloanto go after all other Workbench systems out there? :)
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