Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)

[TorbenLarsen]

yeah, i officially no longer give a crap who legally owns anything about the amiga, since none of them seem very interested in making any of it easily available to the amiga community. I say let's throw our support behind the open kickstart effort, use our outdated os of choice, and let these people rot.

yeees  

[Franko]

yeees  

+1

& Yeees indeedy...

[TorbenLarsen]

It's been said publically on commodore-amiga.org that C=USA does have a license from AI for kickstart/wb.

That does not make it truesfull, it is basically just bla bla bla... a claim based on air...!!!

The Amiga community had been had with tricksters for years...

[number6]

+1

& Yeees indeedy...

Different topic from the "we think we know who owns this one" file, released a few days ago:

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-78940434.html

Perhaps a legal minded person can explain "Word Mark:

(NO WORD)". Does that mean we're talking about the picture only and not the term "boingball"?

#6

[TorbenLarsen]

Different topic from the "we think we know who owns this one" file, released a few days ago:

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-78940434.html

Perhaps a legal minded person can explain "Word Mark:

(NO WORD)". Does that mean we're talking about the picture only and not the term "boingball"?

#6

number 6, you need to get your legal base straight, A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.

[number6]

number 6, you need to get your legal base straight, A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.

I'm only referring to the line:
"This trademark is owned by Amiga, Inc., New York, NY 10016" with my comment. I infer no more.

#6

[Louis Dias]

Different topic from the "we think we know who owns this one" file, released a few days ago:

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-78940434.html

Perhaps a legal minded person can explain "Word Mark:

(NO WORD)". Does that mean we're talking about the picture only and not the term "boingball"?

#6

So we got:
Amiga Inc. Washington
Amiga Inc. Delaware
Amiga Inc. California
Amiga Inc. New York

and you wonder why no one believes any of them?

I have to agree with Franko and Commodore USA - use the trademarks and let someone prove ownership...  Trademarks are only owned if they are defended.  I same with IP in the end...  If someone is willing to take the risk, so be it.  About time somebody did something with this stuff.

[dammy]

Yeah, well, I'll shed a tear for the poor infringed parties when they start demonstrating the tiniest iota of concern for or interest in the actual Amiga community.

What has the community done for AI lately that would make AI concerned about the well being of the community?

[Franko]

Different topic from the "we think we know who owns this one" file, released a few days ago:

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-78940434.html

Perhaps a legal minded person can explain "Word Mark:

(NO WORD)". Does that mean we're talking about the picture only and not the term "boingball"?

#6

The "No Word" part of it means the logo doesn't contain any text, if you wanted a trade mark called for example "Amiga" using text then you can in theory apply for one but the text must not be an exact copy of any currently in use

eg: "amiga" and "AMIGA" could be registered as two different trade marks by two different entities providing the copyright office legal bods say that there is enough difference between the two fonts used to distinguish between them, but this can be challenged by either party in a court...

Just like you could use the boingball logo and add some text to it and provided you did not just use a direct copy of the original logo and there were enough subtle differences for the legal eagles to give it the go ahead as your trademark...

[dammy]

number 6, you need to get your legal base straight, A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.

Oh yes it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property

[TorbenLarsen]

So we got:
Amiga Inc. Washington
Amiga Inc. Delaware
Amiga Inc. California
Amiga Inc. New York

and you wonder why no one believes any of them?

I have to agree with Franko and Commodore USA - use the trademarks and let someone prove ownership...  Trademarks are only owned if they are defended.  I same with IP in the end...  If someone is willing to take the risk, so be it.  About time somebody did something with this stuff.

The biggest AMIGA scam in history has been revealed....  

[Franko]

If you really want to use the trademark "Amiga" it's legally available to register here...

Click on "Basic Word Mark Search (New User) "
then enter the word "amiga"
then see item number 17...

(sorry but whomever made that crappy site doesn't allow direct links to the results page, so you have to follow the above instructions...)

Amiga Tradmarks Live & Dead

But does anyone really want to go to the expense of owning it...

[number6]

The "No Word" part of it means the logo doesn't contain any text, if you wanted a trade mark called for example "Amiga" using text then you can in theory apply for one but the text must not be an exact copy of any currently in use

eg: "amiga" and "AMIGA" could be registered as two different trade marks by two different entities providing the copyright office legal bods say that there is enough difference between the two fonts used to distinguish between them, but this can be challenged by either party in a court...

Just like you could use the boingball logo and add some text to it and provided you did not just use a direct copy of the original logo and there were enough subtle differences for the legal eagles to give it the go ahead as your trademark...

Thank you for the explanation. My "non legal" mind interpreted this incorrectly. When I saw "no mark", I concluded that the obvious image of a boingball was not connected to the obvious term, and nothing more.

#6

[TorbenLarsen]

Oh yes it is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property

dammy, do try to read you own link.... let me help you a little..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark

Did i not say TRADEMARK... get it???

[number6]

If you really want to use the trademark "Amiga" it's legally available to register here...

Click on "Basic Word Mark Search (New User) "
then enter the word "amiga"
then see item number 17...

(sorry but whomever made that crappy site doesn't allow direct links to the results page, so you have to follow the above instructions...)

Amiga Tradmarks Live & Dead

But does anyone really want to go to the expense of owning it...

You would have to ask those directly who already contacted Pluritas, but surely NDA covers not discussing such things.

#6

[commodorejohn]

What has the community done for AI lately that would make AI concerned about the well being of the community?

Wait, what? When did it become the potential customer's responsibility to cozy up to a business and agree to whatever product they're interested in producing, regardless of whether it has anything to do with what the customer would want? What kind of Soviet-industrial-complex crap is that?