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Offline Fab

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2011, 03:40:16 PM »
Quote from: lsmart;615259
I just think that we are reading pointless bashing instead of a well balanced analysis here.


Indeed. Saying Reaction is better because it was renamed from a 3rd party toolkit (classact) and made "official" by Haage&Partner is far from being a well balanced analysis.
 

Offline cha05e90

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2011, 06:19:00 PM »
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MUI scores 793
ClassAct scores 34
GadTools scores 46
Reaction scores 32


By all respect to the fact that MUI is in many fields superior to other GUI toolkits - especially from  the coders point of view, your "benchmark" is of course ridiculous.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2011, 06:37:38 PM »
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By all respect to the fact that MUI is in many fields superior to other GUI toolkits - especially from  the coders point of view, your "benchmark" is of course ridiculous.


I've just been on the phone to one OS4's developers and he claims that the PPC native version of MUI 3.9 they ship with OS4 is actually FASTER than the version of Reaction they ship with it.

I shall try to get him to post here ASAP.
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Offline itix

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2011, 06:46:44 PM »
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Like QT is for some random desktops like KDE?

AWeb was something you had to install in 1995. AWeb was the modern internet.


You had other choices like IBrowse and Voyager.

Reason why ClassAct/Reaction never really took off is they never understood what made MUI so popular.
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Offline Karlos

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2011, 06:54:38 PM »
After messing around with Nicholas' vanilla 3.1 installed machine yesterday I have come to the conclusion that Gadtools is king :lol:

Gadtools, on a 2:1 aspect display with topaz 8, ftw.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2011, 06:57:10 PM »
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You had other choices like IBrowse and Voyager.

Reason why ClassAct/Reaction never really took off is they never understood what made MUI so popular.

 http://www.psi5.com/~silva/afilter/#ox ;)
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Offline Tcheko

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2011, 07:02:33 PM »
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By all respect to the fact that MUI is in many fields superior to other GUI toolkits - especially from  the coders point of view, your "benchmark" is of course ridiculous.


Trolling is always ridiculous.

It is a well known fact that MUI is far superior to any toolkits from every possible pov.
 

Offline lsmart

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2011, 08:50:28 PM »
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It is a well known fact that MUI is far superior to any toolkits from every possible pov.


Well, great then. Discussion over.

Oh wait .. I have to buy a Mac now because: "It is a well known fact that Mac OS X is far superior to any operating system from every possible pov."
 

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Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2011, 09:01:59 PM »
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Like QT is for some random desktops like KDE?

At least QT has some real use outside of a handful of applications.

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AWeb was something you had to install in 1995. AWeb was the modern internet.

Luckily I didn't do internet in 1995. AWeb user interface is just plain horrible.
 

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Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2011, 09:04:58 PM »
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Well, great then. Discussion over.
 
Oh wait .. I have to buy a Mac now because: "It is a well known fact that Mac OS X is far superior to any operating system from every possible pov."

Im pretty sure around these parts, those are words that would have to be backed up by steel :)
 

Offline Fab

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2011, 10:01:16 PM »
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Well, great then. Discussion over.


If you want to have a real discussion, try to find areas where reaction is superior (preferably not of the "official" or "someone told me..." kind), and then we can talk.

The only remotely relevant argument that was given so far is about speed, but there's no benchmark to prove it, which means it may just be wishful thinking or propaganda fruits.
 

Offline Crumb

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2011, 12:23:57 AM »
Programs with complex Reaction GUIs don't exist :-)

but if you create one for the shake of it you will notice that these are not faster than MUI and almost block intuition while they are being drawn.

From a coder viewpoint using Reaction means reinventing the wheel over and over: the classes are too simple, each programmer has to implement the same things if you want to choose screenmodes, fonts, backdrops... and there few available classes. Drag'n'drop is crude and primitive with Reaction.

After having written various Reaction GUIs I think that Reaction is some kind of enhanced Gadtools with automatic gadget resizing.

I heard more arguments against Reaction like it blocking input.device (perhaps that's the Reason it almost freezes your computer when it draws a big GUI)

MUI is more elegant:*you don't have to create ultralong event loops like you do in Reaction.

MUI*is more portable:*it runs on a plain 68000 Amiga, comes as standard with OS4.x, AROS is MUI compatible and it's bundled with MorphOS too. In contrast Reaction doesn't.

PS:*IBrowse1.22 was better than AWeb in the old times :-P
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Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2011, 12:35:36 AM »
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Well, great then. Discussion over.

Oh wait .. I have to buy a Mac now because: "It is a well known fact that Mac OS X is far superior to any operating system from every possible pov."
Hmmm, well Cocoa is more lovely than either MUI or Reaction... But that wasn't the question, to which the answer is MUI ;)

Offline nicholas

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2011, 12:53:43 AM »
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Hmmm, well Cocoa is more lovely than either MUI or Reaction... But that wasn't the question, to which the answer is MUI ;)

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Offline kolla

Re: Reaction vs MUI (as what concerns the API)
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2011, 06:15:02 AM »
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AWeb user interface is just plain horrible.


Well, you can turn it off and just create your own UI with MUI or whatever. Can one do that with OWB?
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