My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[pwermonger]

Tablets are just a computer with onscreen keyboard and touchscreen pointing deveice. Original, but not totally original, and not my point.
 
Releasing a totally new computer platform it very expensive, and difficult and likely to fail. Natami and the others have the deck stacked against them. Not to say that they will fail, but if the a5000, access stuff, boXer and others are any indication...

And the most popular tablet (that most might argue kickstarted the market) was the iPad which is a new computer platform running an OS not seen before 2007. The other tablets, Android, came about even later. Was it expensive to develop, probably, and both of these are backed by companies with pretty big bankrolls. But to say nope, no new platforms can succeed is flying in the face of evidence to the contrary.
 
Dreams and drive do only get you so far. But thus far tablets are protected from Microsoft because of them being asleep at the wheel again which has allowed them to succeed. Amiga wont succeed and Commodore USA wont either unless they can find a place where MS and Windows isnt.

[runequester]

Indeed. Find a niche. There's more to computers than desktop office machines, and there's more to "success" than becoming microsoft or intel.

[Colin_Camper]

Costs were explained and invoices were shown. There is real money being put into developing this product, costs are in the 6 figures for the case and keyboard alone.

Click HERE to see the photo album for this visit.

Imagine what gem C-USA could come up with if they threw a 6 figure bounty into the community to 'Amigafy' Haiku or Syllable?

Also it would be cool if they could ship the 8-bit Dark Side of the Moon with the C64!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLdKW_Db1k

[WolfToTheMoon]

To be clear from my PoV: AmigaOS as it stands now is not commercially viable. An up-to-date AmigaOS has a better chance.

an up to date Amiga OS would need billions to make commercially successful... It is as viable as is space elevator.

[kedawa]

They really need to ditch the 'Email' and 'Internet' keys.  With so few keys on the thing to start with, it's stupid to waste two of them on redundant functions.

[commodorejohn]

an up to date Amiga OS would need billions to make commercially successful... It is as viable as is space elevator.

You say that about anything that isn't "build an x86 system and put Linux on it." Is there some kind of secret tax the rest of us don't know about on computers running something other than Linux or Windows?

[WolfToTheMoon]

Imagine what gem C-USA could come up with if they threw a 6 figure bounty into the community to 'Amigafy' Haiku or Syllable?

Sure... let's amigafy the crap of them and make it even less suitable for mainstream
In the process, we should also create 3 similar OSes, spread FUD between  them, and choose a CPU architecture that is very expensive and has very  little future on the desktop market. Then, to make things interesting,  we shall announce a MAP... which will be a even more expensive computer  running the same OS and EOL CPU and missing the same features. And it will be GREAT!

Count me in for that

[WolfToTheMoon]

You say that about anything that isn't "build an x86 system and put Linux on it." Is there some kind of secret tax the rest of us don't know about on computers running something other than Linux or Windows?

bacause that's the way things are... even the very biggest companies like Apple, Google, Nokia, Intel, Samsung use Linux/UNIX as a base.

Like any true amigan, one must state the obvious. If they are so successful... then they must be

a)less technically advanced then Amiga
b)using less elegant architecture
c)M!CROSOFT!!!1!!!
d)all of the above

:lol:

[SysAdmin]

If it's called an Amiga it should run AmigaOS, Moochie would agreed.

[dammy]

legally shaky ground though, don't you think? Licensing out IP for 'workbench5' when the court has told you you've lost the rights to 'Amiga OS4' and 'workbench 4', and Hyperion has the right to continue dev on that product (presumably to other version numbers).

Court said no such thing.

[dammy]

OK, I just spent some time reading the 43-page settlement between AI and Hyperion. It's clear to me that AI cannot market or allow a licensee to market an operating system with software architecture that is substantially similar to AmigaOS.

You missed the rest of the sentence that quote came from and it's extremely important since it a qualifier in nature.

[Colin_Camper]

Sure... let's amigafy the crap of them and make it even less suitable for mainstream

I agree that for the mainstream, they need the best Linux distro they can get/modify.
However, for little money, they could scoop a core 'alternative Amiga' community who would want to run on Commodore Amiga.

By contrast, if they have ONLY Linux, what is keeping Linux people on the C-USA product? It's not a 'community' but a tiny subset of the Linux user community.

[WolfToTheMoon]

I agree that for the mainstream, they need the best Linux distro they can get/modify.
However, for little money, they could scoop a core 'alternative Amiga' community who would want to run on Commodore Amiga.

By contrast, if they have ONLY Linux, what is keeping Linux people on the C-USA product? It's not a 'community' but a tiny subset of the Linux user community.

Leo said something about still wanting to support AROS(and bounties), so you may yet get your wish.

[Khephren]

You missed the rest of the sentence that quote came from and it's extremely important since it a qualifier in nature.

i'd be genuinly interested in knowing the rest of that.

[dammy]

Well, the BS resume he publishedd doesn't seem to reflect that.

Perhaps you should reread Red's post: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=612887&postcount=1

 

As far as we can tell, he inherited a furniture store and tried to set up a couple satellite TV installer companies.  

No, if you did the research, you would see Homecraft was a recent company compared to Cabletech which he and his brother created an ran until they sold it with 180 stores nation wide. They produced their own equiptment, btw.

That doesn't make him a mover and a shaker in most peoples books.

I think once the TV commercials hit and you see whom C=USA is working with, you will see only a slice of the entire picture compared to what Barry spent hours explaining to us.

[dammy]

If it's called an Amiga it should run AmigaOS, Moochie would agreed.

It can't by legal agreement between AI and Hyperion.