POLL: What is the most viable Amiga platform for *you*?

[fishy_fiz]

Voted for AmigaOS 4 because it is the only option that have new hardware developed for it.
One of the fun things about the Amiga is to toy with not off the shelf hardware, isn't it?
The classic had Minimig, but recently the Natami project seems on slowdown. So, only option is AmigaOS 4 if you love to tinker with exotic hardware.

pci/pci-express/usb/ddr2 sdram/sata/etc. It's far from exotic and is off the shelf hardware apart from the cpu, which isnt exactly tinker-able. Also, AROS has new systems developed for it too.

[fishy_fiz]

My biggest interest is in classics, but I voted AROS as it's the only system that potentially has the raw grunt to contend with anything the modern world can throw at it. There's already cases where its raw speed make it the only option (1080p video, fast emulation (things like uae, dosbox, etc. simply cant be touched compared to the speed available to aros on other amiga options)).

[dammy]

None of the above but I picked "other" (I think I did anyways) as the default pancake choice.  I was tempted in choosing UAE but outside of one or two games, I can't figure out what else I would really want to run on it.  But I can finally see why the 7 million former Amiga owners never came back.

[Franko]

None of the above but I picked "other" (I think I did anyways) as the default pancake choice.  I was tempted in choosing UAE but outside of one or two games, I can't figure out what else I would really want to run on it.  But I can finally see why the 7 million former Amiga owners never came back.

Very curious as to what it is makes you think these "7 million former Amiga owners never came back"...

(PS: how did you arrive at that figure and how do you know they "never came back"... did you know them personally...

[fishy_fiz]

None of the above but I picked "other" (I think I did anyways) as the default pancake choice.  I was tempted in choosing UAE but outside of one or two games, I can't figure out what else I would really want to run on it.  But I can finally see why the 7 million former Amiga owners never came back.

I've bitten my tongue for far too long, but I finally have to ask,.... why do you still hang around when you do nothing but bitch and moan and antagonise? Is that your interest in "amiga", to simply annoy people who enjoy thier hobbies ?

[dammy]

Very curious as to what it is makes you think these "7 million former Amiga owners never came back"...

(PS: how did you arrive at that figure and how do you know they "never came back"... did you know them personally...

7 Million figure was from Dr. Kittle (C= Germany) on TeamONE ML years ago which he broke down production by the different Amiga series.  I would be completely shocked to learn if there were more then 20,000 active Amiga users world wide and wouldn't be surprised if it was  under 10,000 and declining.  Had any of the different Amigaoid OSs (and or hardware) made a difference to those former 7M users, the Amiga community today would be on a much different footing with that type of money being spent.  So the current AmigaOID OSs are not doing it, the community should be huge by now (after 10+ years) if there was the slightest bit of a chance to attract a small portion of those 7 million former users back to our community.

Randy

[Amiga_Nut]

7 Million figure was from Dr. Kittle (C= Germany) on TeamONE ML years ago which he broke down production by the different Amiga series.  I would be completely shocked to learn if there were more then 20,000 active Amiga users world wide and wouldn't be surprised if it was  under 10,000 and declining.  Had any of the different Amigaoid OSs (and or hardware) made a difference to those former 7M users, the Amiga community today would be on a much different footing with that type of money being spent.  So the current AmigaOID OSs are not doing it, the community should be huge by now (after 10+ years) if there was the slightest bit of a chance to attract a small portion of those 7 million former users back to our community.

Randy

Interesting. What did you expect though? People to stop using computers completely because Commodore tanked in 1994?

The truth is millions of Amiga users have a PC or Mac and can see it for the inferior design ethos it is and only use it as a means to an end or for work. Doesn't mean 6,990,000 ex Amiga users like those machines at all.

Amiga was an elegant solution in all areas, this is missing today but as walking into PC World only offers you two 'affordable' solutions what are we supposed to do? Not use a computer at all or bid up the last handfull of PPC cards on ebay up to $10,000 :roflmao:

Sadly it is exactly these kind of people C= USA is trying to con into buying their crap pretending they are somehow Amiga

[Buzzfuzz]

Classic FTW
But I would rather see Natami with OS4.1 classic.
 
SOLD!!! :roflmao:

Not use a computer at all or bid up the last handfull of PPC cards on ebay up to $10,000 :roflmao:

[dammy]

I've bitten my tongue for far too long, but I finally have to ask,....

Try Seroquel.

why do you still hang around when you do nothing but bitch and moan and antagonise? Is that your interest in "amiga", to simply annoy people who enjoy thier hobbies ?

I plan to buy a new Amiga this year.  You?

[Franko]

@ Dammy

Fair enough about the 7 Million figure I wont dispute that (as I can't be bothered checking)...

But as for how many active users there still are, no-one can put a figure on that or even supply a reasonable guess as to how many active users may still be out there...

Take me for example, been using nothing but Amigas since 86. In all that time until June last year I'd never been on the net let alone a member of a forum. So the way I see it I would be very surprised if I as the only one who had gone all this time without being on the net or joining a forum.

So if folk are basing their guesses at the amount of active Amiga users just by how many folk use the various forums or appear to be on the net, then it would seem to me these figures would be way out and be totally pointless in using them to claim that there are only X amount of active Amiga users left...

[dammy]

Interesting. What did you expect though? People to stop using computers completely because Commodore tanked in 1994?

I only used an Amiga until I bought a x86 in 99 or so.  I agree, today only a small minority only have an Amiga and no other PC.  That does explain what happened to those 7 million users and now probably under 10,000 active Amiga users.

The truth is millions of Amiga users have a PC or Mac and can see it for the inferior design ethos it is and only use it as a means to an end or for work. Doesn't mean 6,990,000 ex Amiga users like those machines at all.

By that mentality, if OS4/MOS/AROS hasn't been able to gain traction with those former Amiga owner which are now using the  "inferior" M$/Apple OS, that can only mean they think OS4/MOS/AROS are worse then Windows and OS-X.  That sounds like a pretty harsh rebuking to me but if it works for you.

Amiga was an elegant solution in all areas, this is missing today but as walking into PC World only offers you two 'affordable' solutions what are we supposed to do? Not use a computer at all or bid up the last handfull of PPC cards on ebay up to $10,000 :roflmao:

Amiga was good, but what made it good also was a load stone around it's neck, the custom chipsets which couldn't be updated to keep up with the rest of the world.

Sadly it is exactly these kind of people C= USA is trying to con into buying their crap pretending they are somehow Amiga

First of all, they have the Amiga name licensed to them so it is an Amiga.  Just like Eyetech's horrid Teron mobos rebadged as AmigaOnes, it's a license product sanctioned by AI, get over it already.

Second, since you are claiming C=USA are conning people, what URL do you offer as proof C=USA actively doing this?  Or is this another smear and run post?  And no, feedback from confused or ignorant third party does not count.

[spihunter]

+100

There seems to be quite a few folks here that come to just moan & complain that don't actually use Amiga's...

I've bitten my tongue for far too long, but I finally have to ask,.... why do you still hang around when you do nothing but bitch and moan and antagonise? Is that your interest in "amiga", to simply annoy people who enjoy thier hobbies ?

[Franko]

+100

there seems to be quite a few folks here that come to just moan & complain that don't actually use amiga's...

+ 7,000,000

[tone007]

OS4/MOS/AROS are worse then Windows and OS-X

Dammy likes to confuse then and than.  I wonder if he also confused dummy with dammy?

[fishy_fiz]

Try Seroquel.



I plan to buy a new Amiga this year.  You?

Ah, yes, the recently (ie. about 6 months ago at best) announced, yet to be released "Amiga's" that people know next to nothing about yet. Funny thing is though you've been bitching/moaning in one way or another for many years. Your interest in C-USA seems to be little more than another way to antagonise, but this time with something new to put into you itinerary. Must be exciting times for you.

[Digiman]

dammy: lol @ defending C=USA nobjokeys selling rubbish chinky PC + Linux + UAE and somehow deciding it's an Amiga. My Dell XPS with XP+WinUAE is Amiga too and so is a Sony  PSP + Amiga emulator then :roflmao: what next, my washing machine with 14mhz 68EC020 Amiga? :confused:

Amiga Inc are crooks anyway, perfect partnership, and Amiga Inc don'town Commodore name

And even 99% of the 12 million Amiga purchasers won't buy AmigaONE x1000 or SAM to run OS4 with stupidly expensive PPC boards. If you hate Mac you won't be using MOSand AROS is free so ho knows how many downloads arein use.

As for custom chips being the thing holding back Amiga....Commodore were well on the way to RTG and you need a fast Pentium PC in 1996 to play Super Stardust like a £299 A1200. And A4000/040 users bought 24bit cards.

CPU PERFORMANCE/PRICE killed Amiga well before PC could do a carbon copy of 1989 Shadow of the Beast without dropping a single frame.....6-7 yrs with same 7mhz chip was a joke but 25mhz 486SX owners were playing Actua Soccer in texture mapped 3D or Doom for half the cost of pathetic A4000/030 white elephant of an overpriced kludge in 1994