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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2011, 06:03:58 PM »
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If "Workbench 5" is based on linux doesn't that mean that any changes Commode USA make to it will have to be open source due to the GPL or am I imagining things again?

It depends if they modify any GPL'd code. Think of the relationship between Darwin and OS X - Darwin itself is open source, but many layers of OS X are not.
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2011, 06:05:21 PM »
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If "Workbench 5" is based on linux doesn't that mean that any changes Commode USA make to it will have to be open source due to the GPL or am I imagining things again?

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2011, 06:06:41 PM »
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If "Workbench 5" is based on linux doesn't that mean that any changes Commode USA make to it will have to be open source due to the GPL or am I imagining things again?
 
O.T: Good to see you back Franko, am aye chuffed tae see some scoattish banter on the internet noo that am awah doon sooth, yi ken f'like.
 
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Not inherently no. They could add proprietary or closed parts to it, but anything containing GPL code would generally have to be GPL itself.
 
So theoretically they could write an amiga like desktop environment that was proprietary, and have it run on top.
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2011, 06:42:32 PM »
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@Amiga_Nut

A new Amiga with a floppy drive? Come on, skinning Linux isn't going to give you a modern Amiga, but keeping the old internals and OS of a classic isn't either. I know some PCs which physically can't support a floppy drive (well, maybe a USB one), and even if they did, Windows probably wouldn't run the software on them without DOSBox or similar.

I don't know about DPaint, but I know that PPaint 68k works fine on my OS4.1 machine, can load and save IFF images which I can shuttle across the network to my AGA A1200, where they load perfectly into PPaint. And Multiview. Instead of floppy disks I can use an SD card and PCMCIA adaptor which works a treat. Also, my AmiBlitz software which doesn't hit the hardware directly works the very same under OS4.1 (but faster) as it does on my A1200.


I would love an OS which can do what was asked originally and it's not unreasonable. Doesn't matter if UAE is involved or not to me where running the code is concerned but it is reasonable to expect someone asking for my cash for an OS licence to get into partnership and make a cheap FD controller to use a Mac/PC/PPC machine hosting that OS.

If I can't swap between said machine and a real Amiga then I'll stick with PC + WinUAE as that does it all using very powerful x86 components.

What the UAE team need to do is take a leaf out of STeem's book and let me choose virtual CPU mhz so I can have a 400mhz virtual 68060 or just 28mhz 68020.

So new cheap FDD adaptor + virtual CPU speed control in UAEl= 'new Amiga' IMO :)

(STeem = Atari ST emulator)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2011, 06:53:24 PM »
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So far no one  has been 'cheated'.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2011, 07:09:06 PM »
what does this mean? is there still a commodore usa. what have they bin working on? thought they went bang in 94?
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2011, 07:23:42 PM »
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what does this mean? is there still a commodore usa. what have they bin working on?

Furniture mainly from what I've heard.
It is not really the original company but someone who has paid for the rights to use the Commodore and Amiga names on PC hardware operating under their own Linux distro(Workbench 5/X).
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2011, 09:26:30 PM »
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Furniture mainly from what I've heard.


Prior to that, satellite receiver equipment design with GM and Hughes Satellite as partners and also cable TV front ends.  So lots of cutting edge stuff besides owning a furniture production plant in China and warehouse in Florida.

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It is not really the original company but someone who has paid for the rights to use the Commodore and Amiga names on PC hardware operating under their own Linux distro(Workbench 5/X).


More like the C=USA is about to release a x86 version of the C64 (C64x) and Vic series.  Later on this year they will work on (x86 based) A1000x, A2000x, and a A3000x with a follow on to WB5.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2011, 09:27:43 PM »
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If "Workbench 5" is based on linux doesn't that mean that any changes Commode USA make to it will have to be open source due to the GPL or am I imagining things again?

O.T: Good to see you back Franko, am aye chuffed tae see some scoattish banter on the internet noo that am awah doon sooth, yi ken f'like.

Bunders

Are you two related somehow? :confused:
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2011, 09:33:11 PM »
What about the $30 million advertising + marketing campaign? :confused:
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2011, 09:43:12 PM »
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Are you two related somehow? :confused:


I think he's the other me, cos I've only been here by myself all day, I reckon I must have managed to escape while I wasn't looking and sneaked over the border to the land of the engles and opened a new account here... :)

Just wait till I get hold of myself, I'll sure have some words to say to me... :)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #85 on: February 02, 2011, 10:08:37 PM »
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What about the $30 million advertising + marketing campaign? :confused:

I've been told I will be shown some things related to this. I am VERY eager to see what will be shown.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #86 on: February 02, 2011, 10:21:58 PM »
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what does this mean? is there still a commodore usa. what have they bin working on? thought they went bang in 94?



The branch known as Commodore North America from the 80's, which you may be referring to, is completely active and have announced product and shipping dates already.

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Commodore expects to ship its new products to distribution channels across the USA before March 1, 2011 followed by selected countries in Europe and Asian Pacific. The new download gaming platform for USA will officially be announced on or before March 1.2011.



The entire epoch would take far too long to relate, but you can read a bit about them here

C=USA, being discussed here, is an entirely different licensee.

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #87 on: February 02, 2011, 10:22:21 PM »
One thing I would really like to know about Mr Altman, I know it's personal and he may choose not to answer it but the question is this... :)

Was, is or has he ever been a user of the original CBM products (ie:VIC 20, C64 or Amiga) or is his business venture just based upon the brand names and what he hopes to achieve by building his new business on them... :)

I only ask because on his site I see no mention of him ever being a Commodore user of any sort, only stuff about "reviving and re-establishing the famous Commodore computer brand."... :)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #88 on: February 02, 2011, 10:24:02 PM »
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One thing I would really like to know about Mr Altman, I know it's personal and he may choose not to answer it but the question is this... :)

Was, is or has he ever been a user of the original CBM products (ie:VIC 20, C64 or Amiga) or is his business venture just based upon the brand names and what he hopes to achieve by building his new business on them... :)

I only ask because on his site I see no mention of him ever being a Commodore user of any sort, only stuff about "reviving and re-establishing the famous Commodore computer brand."... :)

He told me he was an active C= user and says he has a photo of himself using a C64 in the early 80's.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #89 from previous page: February 02, 2011, 10:26:00 PM »
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He told me he was an active C= user and says he has a photo of himself using a C64 in the early 80's.    
I know, from Leo, that he also used Video Toaster Amigas. :)