Amiga StreetFighter 2

[fishy_fiz]

After recently getting ahold of an a1200 for the 1st time in a few years Ive been going through some of my old floppy discs I had in storage. Today I decided to check out Street Fighter2 (US Gold version), and all I can say is, "holy carpe, and I used to enjoy this?". I can only assume it was my love of the arcade game that made me play the Amiga version so much in my late teens, as it is a spectacularly bad game. I remembered that the movement wasnt all that fluent and that it played differently to the arcade version, but I cant for the life of me work out how I used to get some enjoyment from it still. The crazy thing though is that it actually recieved quite decent reviews in most magazines. Perhaps a little money was exchanged and/or the hype of the game at the time made people not see too clearly, or perhaps the box came with a free hallucinagen.

Anyway, I just thought I'd rant here rather than stabbing my a1200 to death,.. the game simply isnt worth it

[ElPolloDiabl]

Yeah none of the developers tried to push a gamepad.
You get the same apathy on consoles too, I've heard that their flight sims are really dodgy.

[fitzsteve]

Super Street Fighter 2 AGA plays quite well on the Amiga.  Its the best for the platform and I as a SF2 fan I still go back and play it.
 
Steve.

[Kesa]

What's wrong with Ultimate Body Blows? Best fight'em up ever!

Worst is easily Shadow Fighter aga. YUK!

[jj]

No worst is easily Rise of the Robots.   Bought that game on the back of the hype and some good reviews.  Still got the boxed origina lon 8 million disks somwehere.  At least came with HDD install as standard.
 
In fact some companies towards the end were really good at this.  
 
Syndicate
Theme park
Settlers

[Angus]

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Anyway, I just thought I'd rant here rather than stabbing my a1200 to death,.. the game simply isnt worth it

Probably just me, but I could never see the appeal in the Streetfighter games, or even Golden Axe which I gather some people really liked.

What was that very pretty oriental looking beta-em-up, a bit cute but very nicely done, and in ECS?

I never really progressed beyond Way of the Exploding Fist on the C64 though.  

[fishy_fiz]

I much prefered Shadow Fighter to any of the Body Blows games. Body Blows was way over rated, with no character or charisma. Technically it was ok, but so very sterile and generic. It wasnt a bad game as such, but I wouldnt call it good either. Shadow Fighter took me a few tries to enjoy it, but eventually I did, although it too was probably over-rated. Id give them 6 out of 10 and 7 out of 10 respectively.
And yes, I have to agree about Super StreerFighter AGA, it played quite nicely (and accurately), although the graphics seemed pretty rushed. Even using the same sized graphics and backdrops, etc it couldve looked nicer. As it is it looks like someone with no real idea about graphics simply reduced color depth and size from Snes graphics and let software deal with it (which tends to give average results at best). Still a pretty decent game, but with a little more work couldve looked a bit nicer too.

As for Rise Of The Robots, at least it moved fluidly and had reasonable collision detection, ... not really sure which Id say was worse between it and the Original Amiga SF2. Both however are head and shoulder above the Amiga version of StreetFighter1, which is kinda scary

[kedawa]

Super Street Fighter 2 AGA plays quite well on the Amiga.  Its the best for the platform and I as a SF2 fan I still go back and play it.
 
Steve.

I feel exactly the same way, and I had never played that version until last summer.  It's definitely not the most photogenic Street Fighter on the Amiga, but it's the only one that plays anything like the arcade game.

[Digiman]

Street Fighter 2 is very playable, I'm not a huge fan but the problem is the rubbish conversion Amigans got not the game, play it on PC-Engine/Megadrive/SNES and you will see.

As far as the US Gold versions go...give me the sprites from the SNES and I'll write you a superior version in Blitz Basic on an A500+

[fishy_fiz]

@Digiman

Not sure if that was directed at me or not, but you dont have to convince me of StreetFighter2 being a good game . I was a huge fan of it and most of it's successors in the arcades (I spent a lot of my school lunch money playing it) and to a lesser degree the consoles you mentioned (despite a general concensus I thought Megadrive SCE was better than Super Nintendo versions (although SSF2 was better on SNES, albiet SSF2 itself was inferior to SCE for those consoles)).PC-Engine version was surprisingly good as well and probably sat in between Megadrive and Snes versions for my tastes.
The thread was originally started about the horrible Amiga US Gold version. I'd simply either forgotten how bad it was, or only just now come out of denial (such was my love of the game in the arcades).  

[Paulie85]

As far as the US Gold versions go...give me the sprites from the SNES and I'll write you a superior version in Blitz Basic on an A500+

Ok try http://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/supersf2/,
when will it be ready?

[rvo_nl]

Super Street Fighter II Turbo looks so much better than both other Amiga versions. Too bad playability suffered and there was hardly any sound. Fightin' Spirit later proved the Amiga could very well handle a Beat-em-up. They even made an ECS version. A really good game. Too bad not many people know about it.

[fishy_fiz]

I've actually started an attempt at remaking SF2 for Amiga a few times (think I showed some screenshots here a long while back) and it does make me wonder what the heck the US Gold coders where doing. Even my humble coding skills produced something that was faster and smoother, while having the full sized sprites of the arcade version (granted the sprites in amiga version are bigger than the Snes sprites, but theyre still not full sized). To be fair I never got much further than a few characters moving left and right while bouncing and with a few moves, but even allowing for what was missing I wonder what the guys at US Gold where doing. Perhaps it was a case of ST-itis with extra colors.
Now that I have an a1200 again I might consider continuing with it. I'd like to, but the sheer volume of graphics is a bit off putting for a one man show and if Im going to spend that much time creating something an original game is probably a little more appealing.

edit: heh, after a bit of a browse I found the link to the screenshot of some characters I did for my remake. Yes, they are ripped, but Ive also done some work on them myself to get them all to use a shared 16 color palette (as opposed to using 16 colors per character ala the arcade machine).
http://img129.imageshack.us/f/sf2megamixspritesko5.png/

[fishy_fiz]

Yeah, Fightin' Spirit is very nice. A very good attempt at a Neo-Geo style beat 'em up, and proof that EHB is usable for heavy action based games  

[runequester]

We enjoyed Street fighter 2 back in the day, as well as mortal kombat 1 and 2

Fightin' spirit is excellent. Never got into Body Blows much, but its nice as a "amiga for real" game.

Rise of the Robots is almost legendarily bad. The animation sequences are nifty to check out, but thats all.