FPGA Replay Board

[Hattig]

€800 is a lot for a case, power supply, some memory cards, etc!

Get a mini-Itx case with PSU or without PSU (but then you need a picoPSU + 12V AC/DC convertor (aka external brick)).

Personally I'm thinking of mounting the board between two slabs of perspex, although the pico-PSU cabling might look a bit messy. Maybe smoked perspex rather than clear.

[ChaosLord]

ChaosLord,
Who has quoted you this?

Your friend Laurent.  I thought he was like ur official preorder, sales, marketing type of person?

I just want to be on the official "I really seriously want a Replay + 060 card and am willing to pay for it" list.  I want you guys to succeed!  I am trying to do what I can to make u guys succeed.  If u need me to prepay I am willing to do that, if it will help ur cashflow situation and get things rolling.  I know that cash can get really really tight when you first do a production run.

There is no pricing for the daughterboard yet. Please mail me privately.

He said the price was an estimated 300 Euros for daughtercard with MMU+FPU but that it depended on a lot of things.  (I take this to mean it will end up being a higher price

If you are outside the EU then you will pay no VAT - although you may pay import duty.

I have only ordered from a couple of countries and never had to pay import fees.  Definitely no import fees from China or UK.

The guide price for the main board (from me) is expected therefore to be 199EU (without comp/svhs) or 229-239EU with. Exact pricing is dependant on import duty and final manufacture cost, and may vary between runs with exchange rate.

I would make this 270 USD for the base board + shipping.
If the board is from one of my resellers, they then charge for integration, cases and support etc so the price will be higer.
/MikeJ

My quote was for a model with everything.  Even the composite video output which I have no intention of ever using.  But since you went to all the trouble to build it, I will pay u $$$ for it.  If you had a model with PCI slots I would pay extra for that.  Or if there was a model with 2GB of ram I would pay extra for that.  Even if I have to sell a kidney.  I support Amiga hardware manufacturers.  I always have.  I sold hundreds of Amigas for C= and thousands of C64s back in the day.  I am a hardcore Amiga supporter.

But I am a little confused.  You are saying I can buy directly from you if I choose?  And that you only sell the bare boards?

Or I could wait until Amikit stocks them?  Or is Amikit not going to be a reseller?  (I know there is no tax of any kind from UK Amikit).  I just don't know if Amikit will be offering a fully put together system.  What I call a "mass market" model.  With the Replay in a case with power suppl and any needed backplanes or power adapters or other needed gizmos.  A product that when you get it you just plug it in and it comes on and works.  

The thing is I am trying to talk another guy into buying a Replay.  He is interested. So I spent hours typing him emails to explain Replay to him.  But he absolutely positively needs a put together system.  So I figure if I am going to go around talking ppl into buying a Replay that I should buy the exact model and setup that they would be buying (to make sure there are no problems).  I don't really like selling products that I don't actually own.  I need to own exactly what I am selling.  I also need to know prices.  I gave him an estimated price of $1000.00.  WOOPS!  Live and learn.

[cunnpole]

Mike will a 90W PSU do for both the base and addon board (either the with 060 or the proposed secondary fpga)

Tempted to go for one of these to keep the dust out: http://www.ebuyer.com/312925-isk-110-vesa-uk-itx-chassis-uk-0-761345-08198-6

[ChaosLord]

€800 is a lot for a case, power supply, some memory cards, etc!

300 Euros for Daughtercard.  110 Euros for Shipping.

Also it included an ATX power adapter.  What does that do?

And don't forget the IO Backplane thingy.  I want a completely professional setup to the limit of what MikeJ and Yaqube produce.  If they make a backplane that costs money then I am just assuming that it is a nice thing to have?  So I should pay for that right?

Get a mini-Itx case with PSU or without PSU (but then you need a picoPSU + 12V AC/DC convertor (aka external brick)).

What are the advantages / disadvantages of internal vs. external powersupply for Replay?

All my other computers have an internal power supply.  All my PCs have internal power supplies.  So does my A1200T/060 and my A3000s and my A2000.

[Faranheit]

Hi ChaosLord,

The Mini ITX Case proposed is a Mini ITX one and every Mini ITX has an external pico atx power suppy, like the ones for laptops for example.

Internal ATX supply are for ATX / Micro ATX case, so, it takes more place on your desktop.

Each one can be used for FPGA Arcade board until you take the ATX adapter done by Mike for more security (included in the propopsition you have received).

I think it's just a matter of place on your desktop !

Also, the case I have suggested is a VESA compatible one, so it can be fixed behind your monitor like I show it on my photo HERE.

Thanks, Laurent aka Faranheit

[mikej]

Your friend Laurent.  I thought he was like ur official preorder, sales, marketing type of person?
...
He said the price was an estimated 300 Euros for daughtercard with MMU+FPU but that it depended on a lot of things.  (I take this to mean it will end up being a higher price
...
But I am a little confused.  You are saying I can buy directly from you if I choose?  And that you only sell the bare boards?
.

Laurent is a reseller / system integrator.  
Yes, you can always buy the boards from me, but you need to put it together and I am rubbish at support - although the forums will help.

Ok, 300E for daughter card + CPU is reasonable, and as long as he said estimate that's fine. I don't know the price yet, it could well be lower.
/MikeJ

[Kesa]

Is this thread ever going to end?

[gaula92]

@kesa: I hope not! The FPGA REPLAY board is going to be the best thing that has happened in the Amiga hardware front since the original V1.1 Minimig board!
This thread is about the future!

[Faranheit]

@mikej :
Thanks for clarifying the situation between you and me

I hope too this thread will NOT end and grows with the upcoming new features Mike is releasing on the new firmware

Yakub as well as Mike are some very awesome coders, developers for hardware as well as for software

We're getting closed to the shippings so, give still some time to them for releasing a great product

Thanks, Laurent aka Faranheit

[gaula92]

@mikej :
Thanks for clarifying the situation between you and me

Yeah, look at Batman and Robin, Bert and Ernie, etc.. They never clarified their situations and people assumed they were gays. Now that's not bad at all, but it's better to have things clear in a relationship.

[ChaosLord]

Uhmmm.... I just realized something...

There is no VGA connector....

Please tell me I am going blind and missed it!

How am I going to connect this to any of my CRT Monitors?  I own a few Multisync monitors which work perfectly with NTSC and PAL and they have VGA connectors.  No DVI or HDMI.  I own a few 1084S monitors and some have VGA connectors others have something else but they came with adapters.  No DVI or HDMI on my 1084S monitors.

I only own 1 monitor with HDMI connectors and it doesn't do PAL according to the instruction manual.   It claims to only support a few common PC modes.  In any case that monitor is 100 feet away in another room, far away from my internet computer.  The funny thing is that computer with the HDMI connectors also has Composite and VGA connectors and the Windows XP and Windows 7 PC looks best on the VGA connector.   For some reason every computer my brother connects to the HDMI looks bad compared to VGA.  Its weird because his XBOX 360 and PS3 look fantastic on the HDMI inputs.  His Wii looks pretty smeary on the composite.


I wanted to use my Replay on one of my CRT monitors.  What am I going to do? :confused:

And don't say "use composite".  No way in hell am I connecting a super deluxe $1400.00 Replay to a silly blurry smeary composite video connection.

[Kesa]

Yeah, look at Batman and Robin, Bert and Ernie, etc.. They never clarified their situations and people assumed they were gays. Now that's not bad at all, but it's better to have things clear in a relationship.

:confused:

[Faranheit]

@ChaosLord:

No problem, a simple VGA / DVI adapter and it works.

I use that on my 17'' TFT for connecting the FPGA Replay board on it.

This adapter is gifted if people need it.

Thanks, Laurent aka Faranheit

[ChaosLord]

@Fahrenheit

Whew!
Thanx for the infos!
I was really scared for a minute there :nervous:

Note to self: Replay connects to VGA with simple adapter.

[ChaosLord]

@ChaosLord:

No problem, a simple VGA / DVI adapter and it works.

I use that on my 17'' TFT for connecting the FPGA Replay board on it.

This adapter is gifted if people need it.

Thanks, Laurent aka Faranheit

You should put this in your advertising materials.

You have lots of nice pics on your website but I don't remember seeing one about "Connects easily to VGA monitors with an adapter like this:"

Silly me  :insane: didn't know it was easy to adapt DVI into VGA.  Never done it before so I didn't know.

[Kremlar]

Silly me :insane: didn't know it was easy to adapt DVI into VGA. Never done it before so I didn't know.

FYI, it's easy to adapt DVI-I which has both digital and analong signals on the same conenctor. DVI-D is digital-only and is not easy to adapt to VGA.