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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1229 on: December 19, 2011, 08:01:37 PM »
Not unless the keyboard/mouse speaks PS2 protocol over USB - the converter is just a passive adapter. The new Amiga core uses a tiny microcontroller soft core to do the ps2 interface and I am looking at making it speak USB - so then a ps2/usb adapter would work with a true USB device. Something for the future.

Oh, the rear IO panels have arrived :
http://www.fpgaarcade.com

This will be 14 Euro each + shipping. Again, it's the NRE cost which hurts - after the first 100 it will drop a little. I will do another version for the daughterboard and offer a trade in ;)

/MikeJ
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1230 on: December 19, 2011, 08:22:15 PM »
If you do a follow up will it be the same layout or is slight component optimization a possibility?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1231 on: December 19, 2011, 09:25:36 PM »
Quote from: mikej;671950
Not unless the keyboard/mouse speaks PS2 protocol over USB - the converter is just a passive adapter. The new Amiga core uses a tiny microcontroller soft core to do the ps2 interface and I am looking at making it speak USB - so then a ps2/usb adapter would work with a true USB device. Something for the future.

Oh, the rear IO panels have arrived :
http://www.fpgaarcade.com

This will be 14 Euro each + shipping. Again, it's the NRE cost which hurts - after the first 100 it will drop a little. I will do another version for the daughterboard and offer a trade in ;)

/MikeJ

It looks like it's not compatible with the Rev. B01 boards (protoboards) Mike ?
I hope to get one that will fit the rev B01 with daughtboard :-)
I want my mits on your new core !!!!!!! Mail me anytime !!!!! (hehehe)..
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1232 on: December 19, 2011, 09:32:04 PM »
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If you do a follow up will it be the same layout or is slight component optimization a possibility?


Not quite sure what you mean, I'm talking about a softcore update.
The daughter board will add ethernet and usb connectors, maybe digital audio and some other odds and ends which will set just above the current sd/dvi connector.

The io panel just gets some more holes in it.
The base board is staying as it is!
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1233 on: December 19, 2011, 11:21:06 PM »
I think onboard Ethernet that the ARM CPU can handle would be really useful. And I suspect the first batch will produce some feedback that can be used to improve the next version.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1234 on: December 19, 2011, 11:59:31 PM »
new io panel looks great... cant wait to get one of these babies... with the io panel of course...
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1235 on: December 20, 2011, 02:59:40 AM »
Quote from: mikej;671964
Not quite sure what you mean, I'm talking about a softcore update.
The daughter board will add ethernet and usb connectors, maybe digital audio and some other odds and ends which will set just above the current sd/dvi connector.

The io panel just gets some more holes in it.
The base board is staying as it is!
/MikeJ

This has probably already been asked, or suggested.  Do you have the layout of the daughter board finalized with it's external port placement fixed, so you could make the i/o panels made with easily removable openings for the daughter board ports, in addition to the openings for the Replay board?  The ports openings for the daughter board could be cut out all the way except for at two or four slender points of metal holding the closed opening in place that could be easily removed if/when the owner of the Replay board gets a daughter board to add to his Replay system.  In this way you could produce one i/o panel for Replay boards with and without the daughter boards.

I hope this makes sense.  It is harder to describe than it is to make. :)

Edit:  Is the revised daughter board design going to sit above the double height Joystick ports, or will the daughter board have a cut-out to go around the higher ports?  I know the first design of the Replay did not have those ports stacked on top of each other and some comment was made which I thought said that the revised daughter board would have a cut-out and go around the stacked ports, so it would not be on top of them.  I suppose it could sit on top of the stacked ports, but have the Ethernet and USB ports on the underside of the daughter boards, so that they would still fit in the space of the i/o panel.  If the daughter board sits lower and close to the top of the Replay boards FPGA and other chips, will heat be a concern with the reduced airflow?
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1236 on: December 20, 2011, 08:58:12 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;671993

Edit:  Is the revised daughter board design going to sit above the double height Joystick ports, or will the daughter board have a cut-out to go around the higher ports?  I know the first design of the Replay did not have those ports stacked on top of each other and some comment was made which I thought said that the revised daughter board would have a cut-out and go around the stacked ports, so it would not be on top of them.  I suppose it could sit on top of the stacked ports, but have the Ethernet and USB ports on the underside of the daughter boards, so that they would still fit in the space of the i/o panel.  If the daughter board sits lower and close to the top of the Replay boards FPGA and other chips, will heat be a concern with the reduced airflow?


The daughterboard will sit just above the DVI connector so it will go around the joystick ports and stuff.
Because the daughterboard have to click with the motherboard on the big I/O connector.
The distance is to big for the i/o connector to fit with the daughterboard above the joystickports.
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1237 on: December 20, 2011, 10:06:40 AM »
Correct, it has a cut out for the tall connectors.

I was under some pressure to get the io panel ready for the current board.

I need the final daughterboard to confirm the exact hole position - the NRE is quite expensive for the metalwork.  The panels are laser cut, so it's possible to add more holes to the design later.

Heat is not an issue, the base board does not get particularly warm.
Cheers,
Mike
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1238 on: December 20, 2011, 10:39:22 AM »
@mikej
How did I miss this thread, while it got so long?

More importantly, can I order a Replay board?  Do you have any in stock?  I'm more excited about this than I am about the X1000.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1239 on: December 20, 2011, 03:48:44 PM »
From the mechanical side, I hope there's room for standoffs on the baseboard such that the daugherboard has something to stand on.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1240 on: December 20, 2011, 03:51:32 PM »
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From the mechanical side, I hope there's room for standoffs on the baseboard such that the daugherboard has something to stand on.


It's about 20mm
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1241 on: December 20, 2011, 04:00:17 PM »
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It looks like it's not compatible with the Rev. B01 boards (protoboards) Mike ?
I hope to get one that will fit the rev B01 with daughtboard :-)
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Do you want to try? I just fitted a io panel on the b01 board.

The only difference is the SD card and DVI connector are about 2mm in the wrong place, but a bit of dubious modification should be possible.

/MikeJ
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1242 on: December 20, 2011, 04:14:51 PM »
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Do you want to try? I just fitted a io panel on the b01 board.

The only difference is the SD card and DVI connector are about 2mm in the wrong place, but a bit of dubious modification should be possible.

/MikeJ

Nah Mike,
I see you have a option to switch the panel when the daugterboard will be available and you have made a other run of the panels that will fit the daughterboard.
I wait till the daughterboar will be out :-) but thanks anyway for the offer.
I have my replay board all secure in the A590 case so I will fit the panel by then..

Cheers Willem
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1243 on: December 20, 2011, 04:50:55 PM »
Quote from: mikej;671950
Not unless the keyboard/mouse speaks PS2 protocol over USB - the converter is just a passive adapter. The new Amiga core uses a tiny microcontroller soft core to do the ps2 interface and I am looking at making it speak USB - so then a ps2/usb adapter would work with a true USB device. Something for the future.

Oh, the rear IO panels have arrived :
www.fpgaarcade.com



/MikeJ

Ciao Mikej,
I have a CDTV with keyboard, trackball and mouse. Will  be  there  in the future a way to plug these in the ps2 ports and use a  modified microcontroller soft-core ?

Thanks.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #1244 from previous page: December 20, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »
What protocol does it speak, does it have a ps2 connector on it?