Workbench 5.0??

[motorollin]

In their defense, Moto, they're a startup and startups seldom have the skills or resources initially.

They also seldom make outlandish claims of $30 million budgets with a web site cobbled together from pictures they found on the Internet :rolleyes:

[orb85750]

CUSA is going to be fighting an uphill battle to gain the respect of the community -- that much is certain.

[persia]

The community is irrelevant to C=USA.  They thought we would be an easy sell, we were and remain the opposite.  They've come to realise that and only come in once in a while to annoy us, just for fun, it appears.

Workbench 5.0 appears to have attracted some of the Anubis eats your chickens folks.  It appears to be a Linux distro with some Amiga-like bits tacked on.

[Minuous]

>Microsoft Word compatible Office Suite

Presumably then the spreadsheet is not compatible with Excel, database is not compatible with Access, etc.? Either that or CUSA are very careless when composing these rubbishy announcements. I suspect it's just OpenOffice anyway so why do they not just say so?

[runequester]

The problem though isn't the difficulty, it's the point. Many of the design decisions in Workbench made sense at the time, or were even cutting edge but would look very dated or even archaic against a modern desktop. Today things have moved on somewhat and I really question whether something that went even slightly beyond simply just producing a skin for LXDE or similar would be in any way worthwhile from the point of view of mainstream Linux users given the alternatives already in the market.
 
I'm not saying that there isn't the space for another player, I'm curious though as to whether or not there is enough space.

In a world where stuff like KDE and Compiz is standard, and we're moving towards Gnome shell and Unity ? I don't think this has much space to market to.
 
If the goal is a low power distro (and with open office, I kinda doubt it), there's already plenty of stuff to beat (DSL, Puppy etc).
 
Its not impossible, but Im not seeing it from an outfit like that

[huronking]

This is a South Florida shell game.

[dentunes]

AROS obviously won't work for them from a licence point of view so a version of Linux, named Commodore OS, is not necessarily a bad idea, I think.

Apple did it and did it well. Personally, there may be merit to having a version of linux named after a popular computer. When you think about it, if Apple said they were just running linux (I know it isn't but follow me for a sec) would it have had the same impact? I would say probably not. If they market it as Commodore OS and not push the fact it is linux and focus on the name, it just may work.

As the CTO said in the forum, the hard core Amiga crowd isn't their market, I can see why. They are bringing an old name back to link with Linux. Nothing more nothing less.

[SamuraiCrow]

AROS obviously won't work for them from a licence point of view so a version of Linux, named Commodore OS, is not necessarily a bad idea, I think.

What's wrong with the AROS Public License?  It's just an MIT license with a GPL-style copyback clause.  Besides, Linux is full GPL which is even worse.

[dentunes]

What's wrong with the AROS Public License?  It's just an MIT license with a GPL-style copyback clause.  Besides, Linux is full GPL which is even worse.

From http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/6-workbench-5-software-development-/5-workbench-5-question-thread?limit=15&start=30 , the CTO states

However, since our initial announcement of the intention to champion AROS, as well as pre-install it on all of our machines, we received a threat of legal action from another vendor, who shall remain nameless, if we proceeded with our plans, due to agreements that had been made with our Amiga licensor. Whether our utilisation of AROS is actually subject to these contractual agreements is a contentious issue, but we would rather not run the risk of a lawsuit down the track.

(It is more about the licence of the Amiga name rather than the AROS licence.)

[Iggy]

Is my avatar (which represent by the way crest of my town, comes from historically agricultural and religious backgrounds) is in some kind of conflict with your "mutated big-o-teeth rodent" avatar?

Ok. it's a church boat and crossed flails. Hope you are now much more happier person.

Not to nitpick, but rabbits are not rodents. Rabbits are small mammals in the family Leporidae of the order Lagomorpha.
But I gotta admit the fangs are kinda creepy.  

Say, since CUSA is actually building something (or will be) you guys sound kinda pissy.

[dentunes]

Not to nitpick, but rabbits are not rodents. Rabbits are small mammals in the family Leporidae of the order Lagomorpha.
But I gotta admit the fangs are kinda creepy.  

Say, since CUSA is actually building something (or will be) you guys sound kinda pissy.

I'm not pissy. Will be interesting to see. Just like webkit has moved into being the best option for browsers, so to *nix will also be the best option for operating systems. Windows days are numbered.

As it stands now, Apple is the only company to use a *nix operating system specifically designed for their computers. There are Linux distros though they are meant for a wide variety. CUSA seem to want to focus on it running smoothly on their hardware. If it comes in cheaper than the Apple stuff then they just might be onto something there.

[Iggy]

I'm not pissy. Will be interesting to see. Just like webkit has moved into being the best option for browsers, so to *nix will also be the best option for operating systems. Windows days are numbered.

As it stands now, Apple is the only company to use a *nix operating system specifically designed for their computers. There are Linux distros though they are meant for a wide variety. CUSA seem to want to focus on it running smoothly on their hardware. If it comes in cheaper than the Apple stuff then they just might be onto something there.

You might want to do a little research on the NT kernel. All non-MS-Dos based versions of Windows are based on it. Its not too far removed from Unix.

Personally I'm hoping an open source OS like Linux (or something based on it) wins out. Looking at the sucess of Android based devices, this just might happen.

[obscurepanic]

I don't mind if this new Commodore company makes use of a modified Ubuntu distro with good supports. Maybe using amiwn? I don't know. As long as this company respects the orginal Workbench, I wouldn't complain.

You might want to do a little research on the NT kernel. All non-MS-Dos based versions of Windows are based on it. Its not too far removed from Unix.

NT is also similar to VMS.

[Boudicca]

NT is also similar to VMS.

My Arse ! Stop believing everything you read from the GooglePlex or the his Wikiness.

By that logic, half of everything ever written, software or written word is "similar" to everything else.

[haywirepc]

CUSA is a joke.

We started our website and starting using the name commodore usa before we even had the legal right to do so (FAIL)

We slap commodore stickers on existing all in one keyboard pcs (FAIL)

We copied,cut and pasted our first website from apple (FAIL)

We think AROS is not in our plans, we trash AROS (FAIL)

We say we will pre-install aros on every pc we sell (FAIL)

We have a 30 million dollar advertising budget (FAIL) (LIE!)

We'll have ads on national television by the holiday season. (FAIL) (LIE)

We steal artwork from anyone we want to (FAIL)

We copy case pictures from the internet and announce new computer models (FAIL)

We announce all these new computer models, but never show even 1 working prototype (FAIL)

We change our website when someone points out we made stupid errors on our new "amiga line" of computers (FAIL)

We take an old render of a fantasy amiga, and claim its our new amiga branded computer (FAIL)

We announced many new computers, then they all dissapeared from our
new website, with no explanation (FAIL)

We claim a NY based ad agency is making our ads, but when someone calls that ad agency, they say they were talked to by cusa, but they haven't even started making any ads yet (FAIL)

We send threatening legal letters to OSNEWS.COM for stating facts (FAIL)

We claim amiga.org has no right to use the name amiga (FAIL)

We announce a "new os", but won't release any information on it (FAIL)

We won't confirm or deny our new os is just a custom ubuntu respin, even though the info so far released makes that obvious (FAIL)

We keep making announcement after announcement of new computers, but we have nothing in our web store that you can actually buy (FAIL)

Our company phone # is just a voicemail box at a furniture company our ceo runs out of his house (FAIL)

Gee, considering their proven track record so far, with so much success so far, I wonder how well cusa will do in the computer market?

Personally I think its obvious... They will : ( F A I L )

Steven

[runequester]

wasn't 30 million the amount of money amiga.inc had promised to a local sports team back in the day ?