Hyperion Blog Update: AmigaOS 4.1 Classic Video

[Buzzfuzz]

The speed comes from the Radeon 9250, not the CS PPC.
Which means you have to add a Prometheus board or Mediator board and that means going towered, cool by me, but some might say: Yuk!

[Franko]

It's hardly what I call a classic set up for most owners...

It was the same when I purchased OS4.0 when it first came out, no mention of it requiring a GFX card being a requirement, in fact looking at the original box I have sitting right beside me, the only thing it says on the box are the words "3D graphics cards"

Nothing about you requiring or needing a GFX card and if I recall correctly when it was first launched there was nothing on Hyperions website informing the buyer of this either.

Hopefully if you have a set up that will run this latest version all will be well and good for you. I just hope Hyperion doesn't leave folks who buy it in the lurch again like they did with OS4.0 (1 update then all support dropped) also as I say It's not exactly a Classic set up that most Amiga users would own...

[Tuxedo]

I'm using an A4000 with CSPPC 604e at 233Mhz. The Radeon card looks really great but to use one I would also need a Mediator PCI 4000Di daughterboard replacement shown here.........


http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=517

But I think it safe to assume that OS4.1 would support cards like the Picasso IV and Cybervision 64/3D which are supported with my current OS4.0 Classic

:drink:

welll...
I think that AmigaOS4.1 classic was only for ppl that have already a suitable hw to run it...
If you have to buy a 250 card to run it...well...for a bit more you can get a really better/faster Sam440 used board...

[klx300r]

@ Franko & others

incentive to upgrade from our friends at Elbox:afro:
http://http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=601485&postcount=1

[Franko]

@ Franko & others

incentive to upgrade from our friends at Elbox:afro:
http://http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=601485&postcount=1

Nah... decided I'm gonna wait & wait & wait & wait some more for the Natami to come along...

Still not buying OS4.1 though, 3.1 and 3.5 suits me just fine...(don't want me Amiga screen looking like a MAC or worse a PC)...

[nicholas]

Looks very quick for me, especially when you consider:
CS-PPC is 233MHz - that's a Pentium class.
No L2 cache - that makes a large difference
These icons are not the same icons as you had on WB 2.0! They're full colour ones.

Very good work, if you ask me.

The GUI is supposed to be fully hardware accelerated, CPU power shouldn't have any bearing whatsoever on the speed of rendering operations.

[cha05e90]

It's hardly what I call a classic set up for most owners...

It was the same when I purchased OS4.0 when it first came out, no mention of it requiring a GFX card being a requirement, in fact looking at the original box I have sitting right beside me, the only thing it says on the box are the words "3D graphics cards"

Nothing about you requiring or needing a GFX card and if I recall correctly when it was first launched there was nothing on Hyperions website informing the buyer of this either.

Hopefully if you have a set up that will run this latest version all will be well and good for you. I just hope Hyperion doesn't leave folks who buy it in the lurch again like they did with OS4.0 (1 update then all support dropped) also as I say It's not exactly a Classic set up that most Amiga users would own...

Since OS3.5 a graphics card is recommended for AmigaOS. Shortly after upgrading my A2000 from OS2.1 to OS3.1 I switched to RTG (PicassoII) - and never looked back. The graphics card was actually the reason, why I upgraded to OS3.1.

[mechy]

The speed comes from the Radeon 9250, not the CS PPC.
Which means you have to add a Prometheus board or Mediator board and that means going towered, cool by me, but some might say: Yuk!

Thats not exactly true, the CSPPC is quite a bit faster than a Blizzard PPC, the 64Bit ram addressing from the CSPPC alone is a good difference.The blizzard is 32bit throughout.The ultrawide scsi is quite fast also.
The radeon does make a good difference im sure,i'm on a voodoo 4 4500 on the medaitor and its night and day. 32bit gfx in big screen sizes w/o slowdowns. It reminds me of buying the Picasso IV for the A4000 in 95'.. WOW.

[mechy]

It's hardly what I call a classic set up for most owners...

It was the same when I purchased OS4.0 when it first came out, no mention of it requiring a GFX card being a requirement, in fact looking at the original box I have sitting right beside me, the only thing it says on the box are the words "3D graphics cards"

Nothing about you requiring or needing a GFX card and if I recall correctly when it was first launched there was nothing on Hyperions website informing the buyer of this either.

Hopefully if you have a set up that will run this latest version all will be well and good for you. I just hope Hyperion doesn't leave folks who buy it in the lurch again like they did with OS4.0 (1 update then all support dropped) also as I say It's not exactly a Classic set up that most Amiga users would own...

Good god franko,everyone should of had a gfx card for their amiga's in the 90's already.I mean if you do anything in 24bit or so,its almost a must have(if you don't want to wait a day). I think it seems ridiculous for the OS to run forever on plain aga,since you cant progress very far on it. Gfx. cards have been around for eons on amiga's. Get with the program old buddy
Why would you accelerate your machine with a PPC card then cripple it with lack of a gfx card. makes no sense.
Just FYI,os4 ran just fine on my csppc/mediator.. its quite quick and snappy.If your going to buy slower hardware(1200/603/aga)with little to no expansion bus, then your going to get the results to match....not that any amiga is fast.Always cracks me up to see people buy a ppc card,then run off the stock,slow ide.
Lets face it,OS4.0 was just something to sell to us amiga users to generate money for their other ports. I figured we would never see 4.1 for our classic machines.Although 4.1 will soon? run on our classics,many apps will not be useable since they are bloated and coded for stuff like sam,a1,peg,etc with fast processors and alot of ram.

send your ppc off to stan for a tuneup,he'll crank it up

[delshay]

Thats not exactly true, the CSPPC is quite a bit faster than a Blizzard PPC, the 64Bit ram addressing from the CSPPC alone is a good difference.The blizzard is 32bit throughout.The ultrawide scsi is quite fast also.
The radeon does make a good difference im sure,i'm on a voodoo 4 4500 on the medaitor and its night and day. 32bit gfx in big screen sizes w/o slowdowns. It reminds me of buying the Picasso IV for the A4000 in 95'.. WOW.

im sorry but the 64bit ram on the Cyberstorm is no longer an advantage over my Blizzard PPC card the only advantage the Cyberstorm has is CPU power 604e.

[Franko]

@ mechy

I agree everyone should have had a GFX card, but have you ever tried to get hold of one these days here in the UK, they're more rare than an American with a sense of humour... :lol:

But seriously... Don't understand though why you think buying a Blizzard 603 PPC and using IDE is crazy, for one its rare enough to find one for sale and two its even more rare to find one with the SCSI kit, then there's the little matter of buying a brand new SCSI HD there as rare as finding a group of Americans with a sense of humour... :lol:

Again though back to being serious now... OS4.0 was a rip off and Hyperion have lost a customer in me, HD disk speed is perfectly fine with a buffered IDE interface and life without a GFX card is not all that bad. I use 24 bit pics in ImageFX (I've already posted a few on here - the Doomy line up for example) and far from taking all day it's quicker to download a pic, transfer it to the Amiga, edit it in ImageFX and transfer it back to the Mac than it is trying use Gimp to edit the same pic...

One day I'll get hold of a GFX card but it will most likely never get much use as over the years I've become so accustomed to AGA and am perfectly happy with it, never really been one of those who always want things to be faster and faster or more realistic GFX, kinda like the Amiga for what it is and for what it can do and how it does it, to me it's all part of the charm of the Amiga..