What is the future of Amiga?

[alexh]

Personally I see no evidence that youth has any advantage in intellect and it certainly hasn't any advantage in wisdom or common sense.

Since when have sales had anything to do with the intelligence of the buyer? Do you not think sales are influenced a lot by networking? And that that older people do less networking? It's a huge generalisation on my part and I'm sure you can find exceptions. Perhaps this generation will buck the trend?

That said older people have more money and tend to steal media far less (possibly cos they are incapable?) and so they still have a good market input... (just look at eBook readers!).

[Iggy]

Since when have sales had anything to do with the intelligence of the buyer? Do you not think sales are influenced a lot by networking? And that that older people do less networking? It's a huge generalisation on my part and I'm sure you can find exceptions. Perhaps this generation will buck the trend?

That said older people have more money and tend to steal media far less (possibly cos they are incapable?) and so they still have a good market input... (just look at eBook readers!).

Well, you've totally confused me with the polarized posts. And I do agree that generalizing is a poor form of judgement. I've found that its best to withold judgement of people until they really prove their character.

Trusting in my first impression (of a person) has led me to some big mistakes. These days, while I generally expect to be disappointed by people, I frequently find myself pleasantly surprised (a good arguement against prejudgdice).

[Franko]

:eek:

And who did they tell? Word of mouth sells hardware and 50+ people barely have 1-2 friends if any.


Nah, it's just curiosity. Like poking a dead animal.


How the feck do you manage? The classic Amiga sucks balls when it comes to video, audio and interweb. I'd bet money you're telling porkies... that you use your Amiga a lot for recreational purposes but use a PC/Mac for day-2-day work & interweb.

Gawd knows what age you are mate but if you're over 50 and only have 1 to 2 friends, then nip doon ra vets n get yirself pit doon... :lol:

Ah suppose poking a dead animal is normal around Oxford... :eek:

Easy, same way as I've managed for the past 25 years, never been on the internet until about six months ago when I took a hairy fit and bought an old mac. Nae tall stories here mate the mac only gets used for the net (only thing it's good for) everything else is done on an Amiga (as should be)...

[dammy]

Easy, same way as I've managed for the past 25 years, never been on the internet until about six months ago when I took a hairy fit and bought an old mac. Nae tall stories here mate the mac only gets used for the net (only thing it's good for) everything else is done on an Amiga (as should be)...

Only six months on the Net and you added links to your signature block?  I find that hard to believe, TBH.

[Franko]

Only six months on the Net and you added links to your signature block?  I find that hard to believe, TBH.

Believe what you want mate, Im a fast learner...

If it takes you any longer than couple of weeks to figure out how to add a link to something then there's not much hope for you and you must be a PC user...

[dammy]

To all who say the Amiga is dead, then why do you hang around Amiga sites (and most likely still using an Amiga in some form) spouting your keech, do you have some kind of weird fetish for dead things, seems the only logical explanation to me...

Well, you have agreed that as far as the market is concerned that it is indeed dead.  No market, no future.

You say you have a used Mac to get you on the web and use your Amiga for everything else, why are you using a Mac to browse the web?  Why isn't your Amiga capable of doing it as well?  At the least, you can have your Amiga linked up through your Mac and cruise the internet with a Amiga browser?

[Franko]

Well, you have agreed that as far as the market is concerned that it is indeed dead.  No market, no future.

You say you have a used Mac to get you on the web and use your Amiga for everything else, why are you using a Mac to browse the web?  Why isn't your Amiga capable of doing it as well?  At the least, you can have your Amiga linked up through your Mac and cruise the internet with a Amiga browser?

No market, No future, then why do all things second hand and no longer produced have a profitable market on ebay... or is ebay something that I've just imagined in my short time here on the net...

There are plenty folk here who have given me advice on how to get the Amiga on the net, I just haven't got round to it yet (been too busy here chatting to good folk like yourself...)

[Iggy]

The lack of marketability is hurting the attempts to keep the Amiga alive, but its also placing the development in the hands of people that care about the system (they have to be commited - they sure aren't making much money).


And "Trickle Up Poverty"? That has been a phenomenon since Reagan was in office. You remember Reagan don't you? the President who made the largest increase in our national deficit in history (followed distantly by George W. Bush as the second highest deficit increaser).
Got love the people of Florida, they'd shoot themselves in the foot to elect the worst possible choice. At least my state (Delaware), a State that is just as or more conservative than Florida wasn't voting for the wacko candidate (Christine O'Donnell)

[fishy_fiz]

Im not too sure things will change drastically, some people will continue to enjoy the amiga in whatever form(s) they have an interest, while others will continue to talk to themselves in the open about how dead it is, or question choices and/or efforts made by people that develop for the machine theyve been deeming dead for years. I've never understood these people, do they really think telling those that do enjoy thier "amigas" (in whatever form) things theyre not aware of ?

I enjoy my amiga hobby, but Im well aware that it has some shortcomings in regards to mainstream standards and expectations, but it gives me other things I cant get elsewhere as well.

As for those doubting a persons ability to make do soley with an Amiga, how is this so hard to believe ? Sure, the browsing leaves something to be desired on OS3.x, but there's not a lot of bases that cant be covered with some effort.

[Templario]

The people that chose that Amiga is dead, well, besides of they are very negatives what demons do writing and continu in this forum? There is more optimistic, other systems, so go very well, for example MAC with its X86 expensives machines.

[commodorejohn]

You say you have a used Mac to get you on the web and use your Amiga for everything else, why are you using a Mac to browse the web?  Why isn't your Amiga capable of doing it as well?  At the least, you can have your Amiga linked up through your Mac and cruise the internet with a Amiga browser?

Well, I don't know about Franko, but not all of us have the money to throw around on the hardware required for decent Amiga-based web browsing :/

[Franko]

Well, I don't know about Franko, but not all of us have the money to throw around on the hardware required for decent Amiga-based web browsing :/

We'll I aint a millionaire but I'm comfortably well off, no born with a silver spoon in the mouth here, working class & proud to call myself so, left school aged 15 worked damned hard for every penny I have until aged 37 when an accident which led to Ill health caused me to retire early but by then I had made enough to live off till the end of my days. (and before any one shouts sponger or living of the state, no I don't claim benefits of any sort as my savings put me way beyond that bracket). Hope that clears that one up...

So yes while I have the money to do whatever I want Amiga wise, it's only that I've not got around to buying the bit's and bobs yet to get my miggies on the net but I should be doing so in the near future...

[Iggy]

We'll I aint a millionaire but I'm comfortably well off, no born with a silver spoon in the mouth here, working class & proud to call myself so, left school aged 15 worked damned hard for every penny I have until aged 37 when an accident which led to Ill health caused me to retire early but by then I had made enough to live off till the end of my days. (and before any one shouts sponger or living of the state, no I don't claim benefits of any sort as my savings put me way beyond that bracket). Hope that clears that one up...

So yes while I have the money to do whatever I want Amiga wise, it's only that I've not got around to buying the bit's and bobs yet to get my miggies on the net but I should be doing so in the near future...

I don't know Franko. You might find web browsing on an Amiga a tad painful. Even using MorphOS has presented some compromise (flash support under OWB is awful).

Hey, I hear you've got some early season snow over there. How bad is it?

[Franko]

I don't know Franko. You might find web browsing on an Amiga a tad painful. Even using MorphOS has presented some compromise (flash support under OWB is awful).

Hey, I hear you've got some early season snow over there. How bad is it?

I know it can't do everything but I'd like to give it a try anyway, Im not expecting to use it for YouTube and stuff like that, but I'd like to see just what it can do...

Well the thermometers at -8c just now and a good 12 to 14 inches has fallen since yesterday, my squirrels are buried up past their heads...

[Iggy]

I know it can't do everything but I'd like to give it a try anyway, Im not expecting to use it for YouTube and stuff like that, but I'd like to see just what it can do...

Well the thermometers at -8c just now and a good 12 to 14 inches has fallen since yesterday, my squirrels are buried up past their heads...

Yes, there's more to the internet than YouTube and I'm getting by quite well w/o flash.

As to the weather, you have my sympathy. It doesn't bode well when England and Scotland get foul weather this early in the year.
I live in a Mid-Atlantic State in the US that usually only sees a little snow each year and last year there was almost three feet in my back yard when they were trucking snow into the Canadian Winter Olympics.
Some people insist there no evidence of climate change, but if there isn't then Mother Nature has had a strange sense of humor recently.

[Franko]

Some people insist there no evidence of climate change, but if there isn't then Mother Nature has had a strange sense of humor recently.

Those who claim there is no evidence of climate change soon change their minds when they get flooded out and lose all their belongings...

Scotland never really has much of a summer but for the past 4 years now we've had nothing at all, it's done nothing but pish doon and the sun is now nothing more than a myth we tell our grandchildren about...