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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2010, 02:30:12 PM »
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Sorry, I was on my mobile at the time and it's too fiddly to type on it.

The Atari Coldfire team have managed to create a Coldfire based motherboard that runs 68k Atari binaries with no apparent loss of performance or compatibility.
Well...EmuTOS...
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2010, 02:31:57 PM »
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Well...EmuTOS...


EmuTOS is compiled as native-Coldfire code AFAIK, it's the old 68k binaries that are interesting.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 02:32:34 PM »
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The Atari Coldfire team have managed to create a Coldfire based motherboard that runs 68k Atari binaries with no apparent loss of performance or compatibility.

Well, nothing on that page indicates that. Care to point out any benchmark results in running some actual 68k code?
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2010, 02:34:22 PM »
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Well, nothing on that page indicates that. Care to point out any benchmark results in running some actual 68k code?


I'm waiting for an email reply.  As I said "apparently", not definitely.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2010, 02:36:02 PM »
EmuTOS.....that's no small achievement in itself though given that the original TOS wasn't anything other than 68000 compatible, no other 68K CPU could run the ATARI ST OS at all (which is why the fastest STs ever were 16mhz 68000 systems).

I'm sure if £200,000 was on the table as a bounty then it would not be impossible to get Amiga Coldfire into reality...that's like 10 years of a very decent salary (salary left after taxes that is) or 20 years of your typical salary to be honest ;)

Of course I would retain all the rights and lock it up in my castle I have built with my lottery millions
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2010, 02:38:41 PM »
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Well, nothing on that page indicates that. Care to point out any benchmark results in running some actual 68k code?


Have a look at the ST/TT section's Firebee thread on atariage.com/forums/

Might be someone with technical info or some more leads to other sites there.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2010, 02:41:19 PM »
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I'm waiting for an email reply.  As I said "apparently", not definitely.
Well, you could as well just ask them how they're going to handle any code that depends on:
  • 68020 multiply/divide instructions behaving like they do on 68k
  • MULU and MULS setting the overflow bit
  • ASL and ASR setting the overflow bit
  • MOVE.B ,-(A7) and MOVE.B (A7)+, changing ea by 2
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 02:42:27 PM »
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Well, you could as well just ask them how they're going to handle any code that depends on:
  • 68020 multiply/divide instructions behaving like they do on 68k
  • MULU and MULS setting the overflow bit
  • ASL and ASR setting the overflow bit
  • MOVE.B ,-(A7) and MOVE.B (A7)+, changing ea by 2


Will do! :)
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2010, 02:47:37 PM »
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Have a look at the ST/TT section's Firebee thread on atariage.com/forums/

Might be someone with technical info or some more leads to other sites there.
I am not that interested. Now, if someone can find the actual 68k emulation performance claims/data I can comment on those.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 03:11:16 PM »
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£200,000 is like 10 years of a very decent salary (salary left after taxes that is) or 20 years of your typical salary to be honest ;)
You still have to pay tax on bounties. More like 5 yrs of an average software engineer's salary both before tax. Either way, not a good enough incentive.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 03:14:20 PM »
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You still have to pay tax on bounties.


Only if you declare it. lol

I think my own account in the Iranian Tax Free Zone of Kish is safe the from the greedy mitts of the Inland Revenue. ;)
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2010, 03:23:09 PM »
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Only if you declare it. lol

I think my own account in the Iranian Tax Free Zone of Kish is safe the from the greedy mitts of the Inland Revenue. ;)
Given how disgusting I think it is that Guidian Osbourne and Vodaphone are for avoiding their due taxes, I'm not impressed by tax avoidance... But I'm not going to be drawn into a poetical debate in the middle of a fun topic about computer hardware.
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2010, 03:29:47 PM »
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Given how disgusting I think it is that Guidian Osbourne and Vodaphone are for avoiding their due taxes, I'm not impressed by tax avoidance... But I'm not going to be drawn into a poetical debate in the middle of a fun topic about computer hardware.


Sorry to butt in but...

are poets and politicians the same thing, or are yo a wee bit dislexic erm.. dysslax... oh cobblers, never mind...

Butting out now... :)
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2010, 03:31:46 PM »
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Given how disgusting I think it is that Guidian Osbourne and Vodaphone are for avoiding their due taxes, I'm not impressed by tax avoidance... But I'm not going to be drawn into a poetical debate in the middle of a fun topic about computer hardware.


40% Income Tax for 13 years and then no help whatsoever when you have to stop work to look after your severely disabled wife?

They can feck right off if their having another penny out of me.

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2010, 03:32:35 PM »
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Sorry to butt in but...

are poets and politicians the same thing, or are yo a wee bit dislexic erm.. dysslax... oh cobblers, never mind...

Butting out now... :)
Hahahhaha, that is the beauty of then iPhone autocorrect... :roll:
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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 17, 2010, 03:41:35 PM »
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Hahahhaha, that is the beauty of then iPhone autocorrect... :roll:


haha,... gotta love a comment on autocorrect that has a demonstration of the downside of autocorrect in it  :)
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Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 
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