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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 09:16:12 PM »
If you guys listen to Herman's speech at the banquet i'm pretty sure he mentions support for the Zororam boards..!
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 12:56:01 AM »
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If you guys listen to Herman's speech at the banquet i'm pretty sure he mentions support for the Zororam boards..!


He mentioned:

-Radeon Support
-ZorRAM Support
-Pager support

Very nice!!!! Can't wait!
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 01:14:07 AM »
With zoram support it would be really cool. Too bad the fastlane z3 won't have support or dkb3128 also.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 02:14:47 AM »
thats awsome news great to have them support to the older hardware
was dream back in 1988 to have ppc native os 4
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 02:28:52 AM »
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I personally would like to see support for the BlizzardPPC scsi controller which was one of the weakest points (if not the weakest) 'cause due to this the IDE controller made the CPU to waste cycles for disk access/transfers on the Amiga1200...
 
We'll see. I think this is a good move for hyperion, I don't think compiling OS4.1 for the classics would have needed too much effort anyway, they will get extra cash to continue improving the OS and so all hardware platforms and users (sam, peg, a1, etc) will benefit from this.
 
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not that l can answer for hyperion but from what l read th blizzard scsi support
wasint possible because dce computers never realized he details for the controller
so npthing hyperion can do about this , as this what l was looking for with my
card
l peronsally found okay speed wise with my bvision very stable l thought
been awhile since used OS 4.0 classic
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 03:08:44 AM »
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was dream back in 1988 to have ppc native os 4


So you dreamed about that before there even was OS 2.0 and PowerPC was still 4 years in the future? Or do you mean 1998?
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 03:31:35 AM »
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With zoram support it would be really cool. Too bad the fastlane z3 won't have support or dkb3128 also.


If the ZorRAM is supported, I don't see why those wouldn't be - they add memory to the system in the exact same way. Did someone explicitly say those boards wouldn't be supported?
 

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 06:33:42 AM »
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not that l can answer for hyperion but from what l read th blizzard scsi support
wasint possible because dce computers never realized he details for the controller
so npthing hyperion can do about this , as this what l was looking for with my
card
l peronsally found okay speed wise with my bvision very stable l thought
been awhile since used OS 4.0 classic


The problem is not the lack of documentation. There is plenty documentation if you know where to look for, or who to ask. In fact, even the good old MorphOS 1.4.5 supports it. And if I am not mistaken, Linux too.
 

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 08:13:10 AM »
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If the ZorRAM is supported, I don't see why those wouldn't be - they add memory to the system in the exact same way. Did someone explicitly say those boards wouldn't be supported?


Perhaps to support only ZorRam (sales strategy?)
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 08:40:43 AM »
On a cautionary note, whilst Z3 memory support is certainly a welcome addition, I would expect that access to it will be likely not be any faster than it is from the 68K side. The more RAM you can shove on your PPC card directly, the better.
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 09:15:50 AM »
Quote from: pekdar;586667
I have probably the fastest CSPPC board over the world. (604/400MHz with 060/66MHz). Believe me it's really fast. Enough fast for use every day :)

For example, CPU 68k&PPC speed test by SysSpeed:

For 68060/66MHz:
 MIPS - 86.53
 MFLOPS - 32.62
 
For PPC 604e/400MHz:
 MIPS - 581.89
 MFLOPS - 400.01
 
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 CreateFile 22.59 MB/s
 WriteFile 28.45 MB/s
 ReadFile 24.98 MB/s
 RawRead 28.74 MB/s

Looks very nice isn't it?
So I think the new OS4.1 for my classic Amiga will run on it smooth enough :)


you may hold the record for raw PPC processor power on classic amiga but Blizzard PPC holds the record for GFX performance.
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2010, 09:56:17 AM »
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Having bought Classic OS4.0 when it first came out for use with my Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz and being sorely disappointed with the speed at which it ran, I can only hope the OS4.1 has had some major speed improvements made to it to make it useable.

I not getting my hopes built up though as I very rarely use 4.0 due to the speed issues and also the fact that the one and only update for 4.0 was way back in June 07, when purchasers of Classic OS4.0 were left in the lurch when support for it seemed to be abandoned.

So I will warily keep my eye on it this time to see what others think of it first... ;)


tested a 270Mhz Blizzard PPC the performance was also very poor i could not play quake 2 (OS4.0) 800x600 screenmode,i had to switch to my top end card to make this game playerble again 800x600 screenmode.
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2010, 09:57:08 AM »
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Having bought Classic OS4.0 when it first came out for use with my Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz and being sorely disappointed with the speed at which it ran, I can only hope the OS4.1 has had some major speed improvements made to it to make it useable.

I not getting my hopes built up though as I very rarely use 4.0 due to the speed issues and also the fact that the one and only update for 4.0 was way back in June 07, when purchasers of Classic OS4.0 were left in the lurch when support for it seemed to be abandoned.

So I will warily keep my eye on it this time to see what others think of it first... ;)


i tested a 270Mhz Blizzard PPC the performance was also very poor i could not play quake 2 (OS4.0) 800x600 screenmode,i had to switch to my top end card to make this game playerble again 800x600 screenmode.
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2010, 02:02:18 PM »
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Perhaps to support only ZorRam (sales strategy?)
I hope now to see very soon a new 060/PPC accelerator by INDIVIDUAL COMPUTER!
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Same here!  I've been debating whether or not to get an 060 for my A4000, and then thought "why, it runs really fast now, and really wouldn't give me any more OS options."  So then I thought I'd really like a PPC based system, but they are either insanely expensive, or impossible to find.

A new one would go a long way....

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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2010, 05:04:19 PM »
Quote from: pekdar;586667
I have probably the fastest CSPPC board over the world. (604/400MHz with 060/66MHz). Believe me it's really fast. Enough fast for use every day :)

For example, CPU 68k&PPC speed test by SysSpeed:

For 68060/66MHz:
 MIPS - 86.53
 MFLOPS - 32.62
 
For PPC 604e/400MHz:
 MIPS - 581.89
 MFLOPS - 400.01
 
UW-SCSI SCA 36GB with SFS:
 CreateFile 22.59 MB/s
 WriteFile 28.45 MB/s
 ReadFile 24.98 MB/s
 RawRead 28.74 MB/s

Looks very nice isn't it?
So I think the new OS4.1 for my classic Amiga will run on it smooth enough :)


you may possibly hold the record for CPU power on classic PPC but my Blizzard PPC holds the world record for GFX perfomance when comparing Bvision vs Cybervision.

im not even going to bother uploading test results as i already know you don`t stand a chance.
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Re: AmigaOS4.1 announced for "Classics"!
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 26, 2010, 12:29:05 AM »
Are there any further plans to release new PPC and/or graphics boards for A1200/4000? Or maybe even resumption of the classic Amiga line?