Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?

[djrikki]

Absolutely not; the gap in technological advancement is massive in comparison right.

OT:
I think the timeframe of the recession lifting as you put it, seems to be getting further and further away - especially here in the UK.  I ring businesses and local authorities as part of my daily work and all I am hearing is negativity.  I am told over the phone 'oh we have to print in Black and White now as opposed to Colour to save money on ink cartridges we certainly don't have any money to buy what you are offering' or 'we have to ask permission from management to print absolutely anything'. Bleak times ahead.  Hence my apprehension.. there is just no money about unless your a Solicitor, Debt Collector, Funeral Director or a f-ing Banker.

[the_leander]

I think the timeframe of the recession lifting as you put it, seems to be getting further and further away

No it's about the same distance as it always was - about a generation away to fix all the damage. Only difference is now that people are waking up to this fact.

Other than that yeah I agree with your post.

[tone007]

Actually, all in ones, or so called lifestyle PCs are one of the few growth areas for desktop systems.

I bet these are the "good" kind of all in ones, though, system in the monitor like the iMac and Dell all in ones, and not the silly "super heavy keyboard I spilled my soda on and now my PC is dead" variety.

[the_leander]

I bet these are the "good" kind of all in ones, though, system in the monitor like the iMac and Dell all in ones, and not the silly "super heavy keyboard I spilled my soda on and now my PC is dead" variety.

You would be quids in with that guess.

[dammy]

OT: I think the timeframe of the recession lifting as you put it, seems to be getting further and further away - especially here in the UK.  I ring businesses and local authorities as part of my daily work and all I am hearing is negativity.  I am told over the phone 'oh we have to print in Black and White now as opposed to Colour to save money on ink cartridges we certainly don't have any money to buy what you are offering' or 'we have to ask permission from management to print absolutely anything'. Bleak times ahead.  Hence my apprehension.. there is just no money about unless your a Solicitor, Debt Collector, Funeral Director or a f-ing Banker.

It will most likely get worse before it gets better.  US will more then likely (depending on next months elections and if the GOP can stop the rash of new taxes going into effect on Jan 1st) go back into recession.  If the US does go into a recession, I don't see much hope until 2013 at the earliest of coming out of it.  2014 will likely see the US dipping yet again as the next wave of Obama taxes destroy the economy.

SAM460's price tag is going to be tough to chew on, the A1X1K's is just insanely priced.  Which is kind of fitting since it's a relic of the past when one could ask for outlandish amount of money for PPC system.  PPC for desktops declined for a reason, and we are being reminded of why with these new systems.  Current economics just magnify it's short comings even more so.

[persia]

My personal feeling is that there's just too much good new stuff on the market to spend money on that it's hard to spend north of £1,500 on yesterday's technology.  I'm collecting tablets at the moment and they are a lot of fun and don't cost anywhere near that amount.  There are just too many toys and not enough time to play with them...

[spihunter]

Please take the teabagging to the political area.....I came here to read about Amiga's......

It will most likely get worse before it gets better.  US will more then likely (depending on next months elections and if the GOP can stop the rash of new taxes going into effect on Jan 1st) go back into recession.  If the US does go into a recession, I don't see much hope until 2013 at the earliest of coming out of it.  2014 will likely see the US dipping yet again as the next wave of Obama taxes destroy the economy.

[dammy]

Please take the teabagging to the political area.....I came here to read about Amiga's......

Please stop using sexually offensive terminology.  I find it personally offensive.

[persia]

For those who have been living on another planet:

(It's wikipedia, but be warned the page is sexually explicit)

Teabagging

[Piru]

Some socialism has never killed many.





Politics should probably be discused only on CH?

[Iggy]

Personally, I despise non stand form factors. I'm a chronic tinkerer and if I can't alter it I don't want it.
I could see using a laptop since that would have the benefit of portability. Using the interest from any location within the reach of my router would be cool.
But an all in one system? What if the keyboard goes bad? And I prefer older key click keyboards (noisy but it has tactile feedback), So I can't pick that component. And an all in one is bulkier than a keyboard (I'm not going to pick it up and put it in my lap like I occasionally do with my current system).
What about the other parts? I may have a choice of hard drives and the amount of installed memory, but everything else is built in.
So, no choice of video or sound cards. No expansion bus to add accessory cards.
Basically, once its obsolete I throw it  out.
That might work for business. They rarely upgrade rather then replace.
An all in one computer doesn't suit me and never will.

At one time everyone was trying to convince me BTX cases were the wave of the future. ATX cases are still the most common type sold to people building or upgrading their systems. Micro ATX is beginning to make sense as many of the components that had to be added by cards are now commonly integrated into motherboards.

But I really don't believe that the keyboard computer will ever dominate.
I'd be less surprised to see laptops and netbooks become the most common PC form.

Oh, BTW, coming from Delaware and facing the potential of having a total tea bag head case elected to Congress the year (Christine O'Donnell), please don't drag us into this. I can promise you that with the ammunition that people from that party provide from their own mouths I can make your position look asinine.

[spihunter]

Oh gawd! grow up!. All I ask is you stay somewhat on topic and leave random politics over to the political section.

Please stop using sexually offensive terminology.  I find it personally offensive.

[Buzzfuzz]

that thing is hideous

It looks melted.

Why do all futuristic renderings of Amiga's look like all in one PCs? That form factor is not really that popular with PC users.

Yep, sort of Salvador Dali meets '80s computing, and not in a good way. It would be nice if they produced a mini itx board and let us put it in a case. There's a lot of mini-itx cases that look quite stylish....

The rendering is just fan art of how a Natami could look like, nothing is set and nothing is definitive, so untill then it's all guessing at what it will be and how it will look :hammer:
 
This is how the baseboard looks now:

 
http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm

[persia]

Any chance of a wireless keyboard on the NatAmi?

[lsmart]

Any chance of a wireless keyboard on the NatAmi?

I guess this thread is as offtopic as it gets now. Or are you seriously comparing Natami to the X1000? Do you think there will be users coming back to the Amiga platform, because there is an 68060-class board on the market?

While I think Natami is great. I am sure it caters to a much different audience.

[kedawa]

I'm very picky about input devices, so the classic keyboard+computer form factor is kind of a turn off at this point.  When I find a keyboard, mouse or joystick I like, I refuse to use anything else.
Besides keyboards can get dirty and worn out, and I'd rather not have to order special key modules and have to open up my computer just because the keyboard needs to be replaced.
The only type of AIO form factor that I like nowadays is the display+computer style, like the iMac for example.  Display technology is now cheap enough and is changing fast enough that I want a new monitor as often as I want a new computer.
Years ago, I wouldn't dream of ditching my awesome CRT when upgrading my computer, but now that everything is cheap and light flat panel technology, I don't really care.
The LCD I have today is going to look like outdated trash next to the LED backlit, high contrast ratio, fast response time, quad HD display that I'll be able to get for half the price two years from now, and that display will be obsolete once AMOLED screens break the consumer price barrier.

Oh yeah, on topic, I don't think I'll be getting an X1000.  It's just out of my price range and I don't have any reverance for the brand name any more.  I'm a classic Amiga fan and a gamer, so I'll stick with my A500 and keep my eye on the minimigAGA and natami projects.