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Offline kolla

Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 29, 2010, 12:41:51 PM »
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2nd hand 286s sure. A PC was more expensive, but that include 24 bit gfx, 16 bit snd and hard drive.

24bit gfx cards were very high end (expencive!) at the time, 256 and 16 colours was the norm and affordable 15/16bit was about to emerge. All this was running on the slowmess ISA bus, allthough some machines also had various other bus solutions, PCI had just barely been standardized. And the OS was Windows 3.0, 3.1, or 3.11 in networked office settings, and by networked I do not mean TCP/IP, but NetBIOS. If you wanted TCP/IP you had various hacks like winsock, wintrumpet, pathworks from DEC and similar crap.
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2010, 03:12:20 PM »
but the ability that you could connect the Amiga directly to a TV set or a VCR was also one of the strong features of the Amiga.

Yep but a cool thing about the A3000 was that you could connect it to VGA and Amiga RGB. Would have been cool to see that carried over into the A1200 A4000, the A1200 did come with RF, composite, RGB and the *Ability* To do VGA modes. I wonder if a PC style bios setting could have enabled the option to turn on flicker free modes at all time, something where you can early startup control option to turn that VGA on or off similar to NTSC or PAL switching.
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2010, 05:42:41 PM »
I agree that the flickering was and IS the biggest problem with the amiga.
 
I have a 1200 sitting here with an accellerator. I got amigamaniac's rgb to svideo adapter, then an svideo to vga adapter, which worked okay for awhile, but the svideo to vga adapter died.
 
Indievision 1200 is a great solution but no one knows when they will be sold again, so my 1200 sits here on a 1084 just playing video games with it. If I had a flicker fixer, it would see an awful lot more use. My eyes can't take the flickery screen modes on the 1084.
 
Are there any more off the shelf solutions to to getting a flicker fixer that actually work? I may buy an lcd tv with svideo inputs, I hear that works great with amiga maniac's rgb to svideo adapter.
 
I'm beginning to think just running a dedicated pc with amigaos/winuae as the windows shell is just a better way to deal with amiga. At least its easier, and certainly it is faster... AND DEFINITELY CHEAPER!
 
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2010, 06:59:16 PM »
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Indievision 1200 is a great solution but no one knows when they will be sold again, so my 1200 sits here on a 1084 just playing video games with it. If I had a flicker fixer, it would see an awful lot more use. My eyes can't take the flickery screen modes on the 1084.
off topic: The Indivision AGA for the A1200 is still in stock at Vesalia... the A4000D version OTOH :(
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2010, 07:16:21 PM »
http://www.vesalia.de/r150e_amiga_hardware.htm
 
I only see the A4000 or ECS one listed, so yeah that sucks.
 
I think I may order a pcmcia cf reader, then just transfer my 2500 amiga games on this 1200 to a dedicated amiga emulation pc, running windows only as backbone, but booting straight to os3.9. This will work, so long as I can get joysticks and internet working, I'll have a much more capable computer to do more than games on.
 
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2010, 07:22:08 PM »
You're right... either it disappeared recently or I need new glasses. Sorry m8.
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2010, 12:42:56 AM »
bloody samba aghhhh l gave up on it sure whould be nice to have simple network solution
can it be that diffcult to do ?

moving files to classic amiga from pc

be cool we chould have port of tversity to os 4.1 to share media to devices (eg xbox360 psx 3 )
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2010, 03:44:08 AM »
You want to hook a PC up to a TV? Fifty bucks Aussie will get you a half gig video card with HDMI out...
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2010, 04:27:19 AM »
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You want to hook a PC up to a TV? Fifty bucks Aussie will get you a half gig video card with HDMI out...

How much in 1992?  And genlock?  Interlaced flicker would be the LEAST of your worries..
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2010, 04:33:43 AM »
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moving files to classic amiga from pc


That's a good one. My biggest issue is not being able to get any new software on my classic Amigas as I don't have any kind of network or floppies on any PC or whatever and I don't particularly feel like sinking money into any kind of solutions yet. Seems strange when you have to order some gear to be able to get your Amiga out of isolation when it's something you just take for granted with any modern computer that you can just plug it into a network.
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2010, 04:41:46 AM »
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and I don't particularly feel like sinking money into any kind of solutions yet.


$10usd for Amiga Explorer
$10 usb to serial cable
$5 serial port adapter

$25 isn't much of a money sink, and works well until you spring for a nic card of some sort.
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2010, 02:25:44 PM »
I suppose an HDMI card would have been a bit more expensive in 1992.

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2010, 04:20:22 PM »
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I suppose an HDMI card would have been a bit more expensive in 1992.


since you'd have to travel into the future to 2003 to buy one ? Yeah, I imagine the cost would be quite high :)
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2010, 04:41:12 PM »
Trying to get good (modern) video output is one of the top problems - even with a SD/FF!
Networking is another - unless you're lucky enough to have an old NIC.
Trying to use a wheel mouse should be a snap - but not on an Amiga (unless you're using an emulator on a Windows machine!).
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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2010, 05:06:05 PM »
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Trying to get good (modern) video output is one of the top problems - even with a SD/FF!
Networking is another - unless you're lucky enough to have an old NIC.
Trying to use a wheel mouse should be a snap - but not on an Amiga (unless you're using an emulator on a Windows machine!).


I simply use the Cocolino mouse adapter, Freewheel and a cheap wireless mouse from Tescos, bobs your uncle, a scrolling mouse wheel on any Amiga... :)
 

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Re: What is the most difficult thing on the Amiga?
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2010, 12:05:11 PM »
Plugging anything into the back of an A500 or A1200 with that stupid lip in the way.