Commodore USA

[jorkany]

Only in america can you go from fanboy on a message forum to chief technical officer of that company in a few months or less.
 
Chief technical officer? Wow sounds important. Yeah right you dumbass,
show us your paystubs, then we'll see how important you really are to this
so called "company".
 
Why does a company who is just slapping stickers on pre-existant products need a technical officer? Do you print the stickers for them?
 
What a crock of . That is all.
 
Steven

I'm not sure I quite grasp what you're getting at here. Could you be a little more direct?

[dammy]

so either amiga.org is totally not the target group or we dictate corporate policy ?

Of course we are not the target group.  If we have 4,000 active users world wide at this point in time, we are doing pretty good.  If CUSA sold to each and every one of us, it would be a financial disaster.  They need to sell atleast 20,000 units to make any significant investment like a new all-in-one case worth while.  I know it's a tough thing to get ahold of, but what we represent as a market is not economically viable.   We are too small in numbers even if we all bought a given product.  Given today's economy, it would have to be a very inexpensive item at that.

We've been heading down this road for many years, and the candle wick has burned out completely.  Enjoy what is left of the paraffin, there isn't anything left past that.  Some day that too will be gone.

[BigBenAussie]

@kolla
You guys have no idea. Not a clue.
You look at today and think that is the way it will always be.
Like companies don't grow and evolve or something.
Maybe you're used to stagnation in this little Amigaland, entirely due to companies trying to cater specifically to you, and you're never satisfied anyway.
I am definitely looking forward to the day when you'll be eating your words.

[Fats]

Somewhat tangentially, do we have any communication from any AROS developers ?

What I have seen as an AROS developer is some hype posts on the aros-exec forum from BigBenAussie how awesome C=USA is and how we have to support it, a few press releases where C=USA claims to produce the next generation amiga by using AROS and finally a frustrated reply from the CEO posted on this forum where he says AROS is currently unusable.

I did not see any constructive proposal on the dev maillist or aros-exec on how we could collaborate in some kind of win-win agreement. This is in contrast to ClusterUK and Phoenix who are actively seeking ways to improve the AROS community. That's also why I advice people who want a pre-installed AROS machine to go for iMiCA or ARES computers.

AROS is open source and C=USA is free to use AROS but I don't see any reason ATM to actively support C=USA.

greets,
Staf.

[haywirepc]

Hey Mr. Chief Technical officer, shouldn't you be designing the next super amiga computer, or hey why not start off with a smaller project, like maybe getting rid of the stolen from apple website design?
 
I would think that would be more important than spending your time engaging in flame wars on a message board, since this whole companies technical future is apparently in your very capable hands.
 
With great minds like yours guiding their future, why this company could be the next big thing...To flop.
 
I'd offer to help with your stolen website redesign efforts but...
 
My new company "Commodore Worldwide" will soon begin shipping remanufactured dell computers spray painted white with amiga stickers on them. I have to hire a chief technical officer first to help me print the stickers though... Maybe you need a part time job, or is that huge paycheck your getting from commodore usa making you so rich your not interested?
 
How dare the idiot running this thing called AROS unusable. I have been using AROS for years. He is showing fake pictures of an imagined amiga running an amiga like os... the computers are x86 so what amiga like os is he implying these computers will run? I also agree, support imica, support ares, but ignore these slap a sticker on it and call it an amiga guys.
 
I repeat, what a crock of .

[DonnyEMU]

I have to say that the vast majority of people here are not from the USA.. Most of us here have a wildly different perspective on things, and Commodore and Commodore-Amiga were national brands 20-25 years ago that slipped out of the collective consciousness when Commodore died.. We never got a real product from gateway and any of the 4.x stuff and the power pc stuff here were mostly not even widely know by the millions and billions of people who bought 64s and Amiga 500s to even exist. There are no real stores you could buy it in and the community shrunk to the poin where it really doesn't exist. Even the AmiWest show really isn't a show anymore, it's not very well funded companies and a lot of people with really ancient hardware..

To have anyone here complain about Commodore USA is really a non-starter and no one is really going to care. Why? Because they aren't Commodore from Pennsylvania and honestly they are starting at square one with kids that are now growing up who never had a C=64 or even an Amiga product in the house..

Let's face it this is a nostalgia thing here, unlike in Europe and other nations where it's still a cult of loyal fanboys.

No one makes money today off of old Amiga products or even finds a reason to buy this kinda thing (most of us have more capable web browsers on our phones) and access youtube facebook and twitter from there (I know people that won't even email)..

This whole group here is not a market for Commodore USA,  and let me tell you the original Commodore sold many PC-10,20,30,40s etc with Microsoft DOS/Windows on it. People here won't buy a power pc based machine or OS, especially when it doesn't even run their blu-ray player which is pretty standard today. Yes Hyperion has done a nice update and I love their work, but history has moved on. Even Apple went away from the PowerPC now, and that was now YEARS ago (2-3 OS releases which are semi-annually with Apple)..

Frankly it's time to get with the program, AROS is a great OS and a great alternative for hobbyists, there is no security or encryption that I can see find in it or multi-user support, but it's coming along..

It's really time to stop complaining about use of a logo and a name that frankly if the original company was still around you wouldn't be using their products and you would be on to something else if things would have worked out differently..

[Akiko]

Of course we are not the target group.  If we have 4,000 active users world wide at this point in time, we are doing pretty good.  If CUSA sold to each and every one of us, it would be a financial disaster.  They need to sell atleast 20,000 units to make any significant investment like a new all-in-one case worth while.  I know it's a tough thing to get ahold of, but what we represent as a market is not economically viable.   We are too small in numbers even if we all bought a given product.  Given today's economy, it would have to be a very inexpensive item at that..

Really?!? Those must be incredibly expensive stickers!

[persia]

Barry's been living off inherited money for most of his life, why he bothered with fictitious companies and non-existent products I don't know, but I'm hoping that Big Ben Aussie is real and will lead the Homecraft Furniture/Commodore USA to good things.

I'm not really interested in faux-retro or rebranded failed products, give me an C= branded Android tablet or a 12 core behemoth in a box and I might be interested.  

Just like birds appeared when dinosaurs were disappearing, laptops appeared when computers in a keyboard thingies disappeared....

[kolla]

@kolla
You guys have no idea. Not a clue.

And you're so full of clue that it hurts

You look at today and think that is the way it will always be.

No - not at all.

Like companies don't grow and evolve or something.

I have close friends who worked for DEC - remember DEC? I also know people who worked for SGI and Sun - who are you kidding? Many on this board know perfectly well how the business works, we are in the business for crying out loud - just as much as you are, anyways.

Maybe you're used to stagnation in this little Amigaland, entirely due to companies trying to cater specifically to you, and you're never satisfied anyway.

Well - try me, seriously, try me! Amigaland is for me a hobby, and a quite entertaining one. And you're right about me never being satisfied, but that's just the way it is when everything is mandated by the needs of the assumed "most users" to which I do not conform.

I am definitely looking forward to the day when you'll be eating your words.

And exactly which words would that be?

[kolla]

Let's face it this is a nostalgia thing here, unlike in Europe and other nations where it's still a cult of loyal fanboys.

How ironic then, that it is you have "cult member" status, and not me. :laughing:

It's really time to stop complaining about use of a logo and a name that frankly if the original company was still around you wouldn't be using their products and you would be on to something else if things would have worked out differently.

Wow, you've really paid attention to what people have been complaining about, haven't you. And yes, that was sarcasm.

[murple]

This is some rip-off company that isn't producing any products - just buying hardware from other companies, maybe slapping a Commodore sticker on there, and re-selling. I'm not even sure they have legal rights to use the name, I seem to recall reading something from the legal trademark owner saying that Commodore USA was not licensed. Even if it's legal, who the hell cares? This has as much to do with Amigas as Jesus does to Bar Mitzvahs. This is not worth arguing about. Just ignore the idiots. Stop talking to this "company"... stop starting threads about it... Most likely this "company" is just some loser living in a basement who waits for some moron to order, buys the machine from it's manufacturer, slaps on a Commodore sticker, ships it off, and takes the few bucks profit he made to go buy Star Wars toys or porn or something.

Just stop.

[kedawa]

This whole thing is just a .  I don't know who the target market is, but I can tell you that nobody outside of retro-computing hobbyists gives a damn about the Commodore name, and Barry has done a great job of alienating those people.
The brand carries no weight at all, and even if it did, he only has a license to use it.  I don't see what bright and wondrous future could await a company that doesn't even own it's own name.

If I were to buy a bunch of generic chinese LCDs, put them in a faux-wood panel casing, and slap a Curtis-Mathis logo on them, they would be just as successful as anything coming from C=USA.

The company is offering nothing new to the market and depending on a defunct brand name, so I think the doubt and ridicule thrown its way is more than justified.

[tone007]

COMMODORE USA

NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE

[jsixis]

not an amiga by my defination but still unique

[redrumloa]

The Commodore Phoenix is, according to it's own manual, an FCC Class A device, meaning that it can only be sold for commercial and industrial use. It can not legally be sold for home use in the USA.

What do you think Commodore USA's target market is?

ruh-roh...

[redrumloa]

@kolla
You guys have no idea. Not a clue.
You look at today and think that is the way it will always be.
Like companies don't grow and evolve or something.
Maybe you're used to stagnation in this little Amigaland, entirely due to companies trying to cater specifically to you, and you're never satisfied anyway.
I am definitely looking forward to the day when you'll be eating your words.

Some of us have dipped our feet in the pond and know how deep the water is.