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Offline mongo

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2010, 07:03:15 PM »
Quote from: HammerD;577535
Iggy, did you ask him anything about:

1) How many employees C= USA has?
2) Does he plan to do any SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT for AROS? Or in any other way to support and promote it?


I can answer those.

1) 2
2) No.

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He's bought the C= name, the Amiga name rights, and plans to sell x86 boxes in old C= style cases and throw on bundled OS's.   Not very exciting and not interesting if he doesn't plan to support and augment AROS development.


He didn't buy the C= name. He got a license to use it, same with the Amiga name.
 

Offline clusteruk

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2010, 07:39:00 PM »
@Iggy
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Altman does seem interested in seeing AROS move forward. I think he's a little  wary since he approached one developer about the sound drivers and was quoted a pretty large sum.
But if whomever is in charge in the AROS project were to contact him, they could probably establish a relationship.


Interesting, that is not how it went, as I am the owner of HDAudio system.
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Offline HammerD

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2010, 08:02:20 PM »
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I can answer those.

1) 2
2) No.



He didn't buy the C= name. He got a license to use it, same with the Amiga name.


Well this is not interesting at all as he is just trying to move boxes by trying to leverage the C= and Amiga names.  At least ClusterUK has actively tried to develop AROS (eg. the sound driver).

I'd rather buy an AROX box from him even if it doesn't have C= or Amiga on it.
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Offline vidarh

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2010, 09:32:42 PM »
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It's a PC.  You can buy a small Dell desktop for a few bucks that does the exact same thing, it runs Windows, Linux, AROS and whatnot.  It may not have the same specs, but it's more or less capable of doing the exact same thing.

So then what do you have?  A fancy looking plastic shell?


Ever see the red Ferrari branded laptops from Acer? Ever walked through a mall and seen seemingly identical products with a ten times markup because of a label? Brands mean a lot more to people than most of us care to admit.

That it does the exact same thing is irrelevant.
 

Offline haywirepc

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2010, 11:02:18 PM »
I'm starting a new company in my basement called commodore amiga technologies. I will slap stickers on existing cheapo pc products with a 40% markup.
 
The whole thing, and anyone giving attention to my fake company, or this one,is just ridiculous.
 
They stole original artwork they don't own, they stole portions or their website from apple word for word, just copying and pasting out apple products and replacing the product names and pictures with their own.They also mislead those less informed into believing that they are designing or manufacturing the crap pc's they are selling.
 
This speaks volumes about the "company".  Are we so desperate to see the name commodore or amiga used again that we are all going to cheer some sheister in his house slapping stickers on computers we can get 40% cheaper elsewhere? The whole thing is a joke, and it getting all this attention is a bigger joke.
 
Support clusteruk's imica, since he's actually doing real work to benefit the amiga/aros community. Support the ARES guy... Support the MorphOS guys... Or hyperion if you wish, but don't support another scammer who will not deliver on any of their empty promises and bullshit.
 
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Offline Iggy

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2010, 11:41:10 PM »
I'd like to hear more from the iMica's creator, since I don't like be deceived and don't want to repeat a falsehood if that's whats been relayed to me.
 
I'd also encourage any of you that feel like continuing to support alternative systems to continue to do so.
 
I, personally don't care about the Amiga trademark. To me Amiga and Commodore are long dead entities.
I'm sure that any of you that are familiar with me will remember that I use and will continue to support MorphOS.
 
I really don't see these developments affecting those of us already focused on our own interests.
 
Regardless of our opinions, needs, or desires I don't think Altman considers us to be a major part of his potential customer pool. There just aren't that many of us.
 
Again, I would like to hear from others with experience with Altman or CUSA. If you're worried about posting for everyone, PM me and we can discuss this.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2010, 11:49:03 PM »
I've got a spare IBM E serise PowerPC server, can some one get OS4 to run on that?  That would get some attention.

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Offline Iggy

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2010, 12:35:53 AM »
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I've got a spare IBM E serise PowerPC server, can some one get OS4 to run on that? That would get some attention.
 
Plaz

Offer it to the MorphOS development team, they do MOS ports to some outlandish hardware at times.
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Offline Hammer

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2010, 01:47:08 AM »
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Commodore and Amiga were something original and different. Taking run of the mill PCs that don't do anything that any other PC on the market (from established vendors with real reputations and real support) can do and branding them Commodore/Amiga to play on the fond memories people have of the names from their early computing experiences (the "good old days" which most seem so eager to reclaim) for nothing but profit is very lame.

Bring on the original product, even if it's only a replica C64 case.  At least that'd show a bit more effort than doing some paperwork and ordering generic computers.


The original Commodore-Amiga delivered near cut-edge multimedia PC performance at affordable prices.

Why have specialized chipsets when you have the entire company(e.g. AMD or NVIDIA) specialized on doing one or two things i.e. designing high performance GPUs.

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Btw, Intel SandyBridge (CGPU) has a GPU which beats AMD Radeon HD 5450. http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/8/30/sandy-bridge-gpu-beats-radeon-hd-5450/

For Intel, designing GPUs are part of their tier-one focus.

To be balance, AMD has Ontario CGPU (Netbook targets) which delivers playable Alien vs Predator at DX11 effects (max details) and HD screen resolutions.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2010, 01:52:06 AM »
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Agree on ALL accounts. I might add, anyone who thinks Linux-variants are for casual computer-user are deluded as well ;)


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Offline persia

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2010, 02:56:40 AM »
Android tablets are likely to be the hot items this Christmas season.    There's dozens of them in the pipelines...
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Offline Motormouth

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2010, 04:36:09 AM »
I cannot blame Mr. Altman from trying to make money off of the retro computing fad, (though I do think it fair to ask about the images he is using).  If the amiga (and commodore) communities do not like what he is selling we simply don't have to buy them.

I agree with many of you, long term AROS has the best shot of becoming a new "amiga"
IMO, for what it is worth, the amigaos died at amiga 3.1.

I do not have a OS4.1 system of my own, but from what I have seen of OS4.1 it has lost much of its amiga soul.  It feels much like a PPC linux distro.  but certainly I would defer to all of you with an OS4.1 systems.

What will the aeon X1000 do to make it an "amiga"? run OS 4.1?  and are you willing to pay a possible $1000+ USD for it?  

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Offline Iggy

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2010, 09:44:41 PM »
CUSA's websitehas been redesigned.
The website looks much better and now has pictures of the new Amiga and PC64 models.

Youn can find it at:

http://www.commodoreusa.net/home.html

Edit - Corrections made it deference to Piru, who is right, many of the controversial images still remain.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2010, 09:56:16 PM »
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CUSA's websitehas been redesigned to eliminate to borrowed artwork so many of you were offended by.
All the borrowed artwork appears to be there, still.

Obviously the Amiga Fantasy render by Marko Hirv (but now attributed only as inspiration, rather than actual computer model)
http://amiga.roomies.dk/wallpapers.htm
http://www.designbyxs.com/printdesign/amiga%20chrome%20trail.jpg
http://s974.photobucket.com/albums/ae226/sutandes1/computer/ (2 pictures form this album)
http://technology.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/20086/
http://oldcomputers.net/c64.html
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2010/mobility2010/images/HPMini100eAngle.png

Obviously some of it might be used with permission. Perhaps.

Note how some of the pictures have been retouched to remove the original labels. For instance the HP Mini 100e picture has the HP logo and product name removed. I doubt HP is too happy about this, at least their Terms Of Use appear to prohibit it.

Oh btw, here's the Commodore TOTEBOOK:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2010/100623xa.html
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2010/mobility2010/HPMini100eDatasheet.pdf
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Offline Amiga_Nut

Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2010, 09:56:39 PM »
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I do not have a OS4.1 system of my own, but from what I have seen of OS4.1 it has lost much of its amiga soul.  It feels much like a PPC linux distro.  but certainly I would defer to all of you with an OS4.1 systems.

What will the aeon X1000 do to make it an "amiga"? run OS 4.1?  and are you willing to pay a possible $1000+ USD for it?  


The X1000 is using 5 year old technology but costing $2000-2500+ USD based on £1500+ price estimate.

However OS X is just a very well designed GUI on a version of UNIX, there is no shame in OS 4 achieving the same....shame the hardware just isn't there because nobody [with some capital] had the brains to telephone IBM and ask them to aid in the design of a 3.2Ghz PPC compatible Xenon CPU they manufacture for peanuts in quantities now totalling over 50 million to date ;)