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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #89 from previous page: March 22, 2011, 04:35:32 PM »
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Nicholas, did you ever try to get this running under MorphOS? I understand it possible (and that it can run under AOS4), but I have found this necessary software patches.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2011, 09:29:34 PM »
Magnetic: Well sir, as it turns out the copy you sent me a link to (which I assume is registered?) will not run on my machine. It loaded up a CLI screen, though I forget what that said except that it said to hit RETURN. After this, it seems like it attempts to close Work Bench, which of course failed since I run Magellan. I then manually closed Magellan, at which point the program acted like it was going to do something, but it only ended up just relaunching Magellan.

I'll try it under WinUAE later with a basic set up then see what happens.

As for the rest of this conversation. I have some input, but no time atm, Will be back. ;)
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2011, 09:49:23 PM »
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So is the synth editor in 4 more fully featured than the one in OctaMED S.S.?


The Synthsound engine in OMSS is basically identical as far as I know. It certainly plays all the old sounds I have in my collection, except that you can use them in mix mode too, opening up a few additional possibilities, like greater polyphony.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2011, 10:26:05 PM »
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If you did octamed tutorials you would be an amiga hero! and DONT use UAE :)  uae is for suckas
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2011, 10:47:17 PM »
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If you did octamed tutorials you would be an amiga hero! and DONT use UAE :)  uae is for suckas


My, My... another insightful post from the brainless wonder... :D
 

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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2011, 10:55:43 PM »
Actually, OctaMED SS is a bit of an Achilles heel for UAE. No amount of fiddling around with UAE's settings can get rid of the lag between pressing a key and hearing the sound; something no genuine amiga suffers from.

Of course, when it comes to basic playback of a completed track, it (understandably) performs very well, particularly on many-channel modules.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2011, 11:10:04 PM »
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Actually, OctaMED SS is a bit of an Achilles heel for UAE. No amount of fiddling around with UAE's settings can get rid of the lag between pressing a key and hearing the sound; something no genuine amiga suffers from


Even with the Maestrix redirecting the audio through AHI?

Might be worth speaking to Toni Wilen about it to see if it's fixable or not.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2011, 11:11:27 PM »
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Nicholas, did you ever try to get this running under MorphOS? I understand it possible (and that it can run under AOS4), but I have found this necessary software patches.


It's on my (very long) todo list.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2011, 11:20:57 PM »
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Actually, OctaMED SS is a bit of an Achilles heel for UAE. No amount of fiddling around with UAE's settings can get rid of the lag between pressing a key and hearing the sound; something no genuine amiga suffers from.

Of course, when it comes to basic playback of a completed track, it (understandably) performs very well, particularly on many-channel modules.

That's true of anything that's supposed be, or be like an Amiga for me. If your invention can't play four 8bit samples simultaneously with out skipping or sounding bad, you FAILED!
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2011, 11:26:54 PM »
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Even with the Maestrix redirecting the audio through AHI?

Might be worth speaking to Toni Wilen about it to see if it's fixable or not.


Not tried proper WinUAE with host-native AHI drivers for some time, so I can't say for sure, but it always seemed like the issue was more to do with the host audio latency than anything. I guess that from the host perspective, UAE is just another application that presents itself as a stream source to be buffered and mixed into the final output. That will always add delay.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #99 on: March 22, 2011, 11:34:24 PM »
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Actually, OctaMED SS is a bit of an Achilles heel for UAE. No amount of fiddling around with UAE's settings can get rid of the lag between pressing a key and hearing the sound; something no genuine amiga suffers from.

We have spoken about this before, as I used WinUAE in the recording studio before, I did get the latency down below 10ms, and certainly low enough to be imperceptible to my feeble human ears :)

Though I tried to use real hardware as much as possible for that "authentic" 8bit audio... Very few will ever appreciate the effort I went to :(

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Of course, when it comes to basic playback of a completed track, it (understandably) performs very well, particularly on many-channel modules.


Yeah, makes a great sequencer

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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2011, 11:42:02 PM »
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We have spoken about this before, as I used WinUAE in the recording studio before, I did get the latency down below 10ms, and certainly low enough to be imperceptible to my feeble human ears :)


You're going to have to remind me how you achieved that. I think I am going senile. Also, I forget stuff.

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Though I tried to use real hardware as much as possible for that "authentic" 8bit audio... Very few will ever appreciate the effort I went to :(


I do recall you sending me a sounndbite and my having to identify what I thought was from Paula :)
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2011, 11:45:18 PM »
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You're going to have to remind me how you achieved that. I think I am going senile. Also, I forget stuff.
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I do recall you sending me a sounndbite and my having to identify what I thought was from Paula :)

Indeed, one of the precious few who could apprecaite my efforts! :)

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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2011, 12:42:07 AM »
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The Synthsound engine in OMSS is basically identical as far as I know. It certainly plays all the old sounds I have in my collection, except that you can use them in mix mode too, opening up a few additional possibilities, like greater polyphony.


Oh...

I was under the impression that the Synth Ed in OctaMED S.S. was partially broken. Have you any tutorials for this per chance?! :)
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2011, 03:51:53 AM »
Well another reason for NOT using UAE and using a real amiga is the phat paula sound! Seriously even just "dry" output off of the amiga rca to a mixer has really good low end bass sounds and the synth sound seem analogue even though its digital.
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Re: OctaMed sound studio
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2011, 04:21:31 AM »
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Well another reason for NOT using UAE and using a real amiga is the phat paula sound! Seriously even just "dry" output off of the amiga rca to a mixer has really good low end bass sounds and the synth sound seem analogue even though its digital.


I agree 100%. UAE looses A LOT in the translation! Might as well just use Open Mod Plug Tracker if you're going to be using a PC.
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