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Offline Crom00Topic starter

Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 02:37:17 PM »
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You would think these twits would admit that from the start, wouldn't you?


TWITS? I preffer the term douche...
at any rate that was the scam let someone bid on it then change the scope of what's inlcuded after they've bought the thing then send an email that tries to tell me this TV monitor never came with a stand or remote. Typical sheister.

I ordered a Scart to Component adapter. I need to connect to a regular TV. As far as indivivsion I sold mine with a clear disclosure of the problems I was having. MAybe when the next batch is out I'll order one.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 02:40:13 PM »
I'd like to know how many indivisions were sold. There's certainly a market for an A1200 class machine that runs aga games or lay mp3's and such.

Minimig AGA or Natami can't come soon enough.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 03:42:26 PM »
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TWITS? I preffer the term douche...
at any rate that was the scam let someone bid on it then change the scope of what's inlcuded after they've bought the thing then send an email that tries to tell me this TV monitor never came with a stand or remote. Typical sheister.


You probably got off lucky.  Doomy would have let you pay, said nothing and shipped you whatever he felt like.  ;)

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I ordered a Scart to Component adapter. I need to connect to a regular TV. As far as indivivsion I sold mine with a clear disclosure of the problems I was having. MAybe when the next batch is out I'll order one.


I have one of those and it worked quite well with my 42" Plasma TV via the component inputs using my old A1081 scart cable.

Super High Res Laced flickered like hell, but I was using it on an old EDT plasma TV which could do PAL and NTSC screens.
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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2010, 02:40:39 PM »
I got the component adapter and it doesnt work. I have the scart cable sold on ebay from this dude...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-Amiga-High-Quality-RGB-Gold-Scart-Lead-Cable-/260626009773?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL

Don't know if ts the cable or the converter box. I'm switching to a SCART to HDMI and ordering another scart cable from another vendor.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 05:28:37 PM »
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I got the component adapter and it doesnt work. I have the scart cable sold on ebay from this dude...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-Amiga-High-Quality-RGB-Gold-Scart-Lead-Cable-/260626009773?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL

Don't know if ts the cable or the converter box. I'm switching to a SCART to HDMI and ordering another scart cable from another vendor.

I have the same SCART cable from the same vendor and it works great with my HDMI converter.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2010, 05:46:08 PM »
I've tried using the standard Amiga output to VGA, then a cable to three component RCAs. Most LCDs automatically deinterlace and can accept signals without modification including 480i (15 kHz), 480p, all common VGA resolutions, et cetera.

With a cheap 42" LCD I was able to use Productivity, NTSC interlaced (which was rock solid except for the slight edge blur on moving things) and high resolution NTSC interlaced (which looked pretty decent on the widescreen).

I'd say get a TV first and then see whether you need a deinterlacer.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2010, 06:07:33 PM »
I use an XRGB2 for my Amiga.

I converted the JAP-SCART to Euro Scart.  Best converter I have found.  I see a XRGB2+ for sale on Ebay right now.  Not sure the differences between the + and non+ units.  Works well for counsels and 8 bit machines also....
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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2010, 12:07:54 AM »
I was looking through this thread and still feel as if this topic is somehow open ended...

I did a search for "monitor" and "LCD display" and still have no idea what I should consider looking for in a monitor that would give me the most bang for my buck with the Amiga. I've got a couple of 1084s monitors and a couple of old VGA monitors that will go down to 15Khz, but I'd like to move up to something more modern and larger. Sure I get the whole indivision thing but, I've got to say that I'm not keen on having to buy one for every Amiga that I have. If I had to I could do this on a couple of them.

If it's out there, I'd rather have one LCD TV or monitor that I could use across all my Amigas.

What is everyone else using? I do a mix of workbench stuff and the occasional game. If there anything that works across the bulk of OCS / ECS / AGA / Other modes, what is it?

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2010, 01:42:37 AM »
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Minimig AGA or Natami can't come soon enough.


I couldn't agree more!

...and douche is such a vulgar word, I've been trying for months to stop my daughters from saying it and dammit man, your not helping. Now I'll have to read Amiga.org when the're not looking. :P
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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2010, 01:51:25 AM »
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If it's out there, I'd rather have one LCD TV or monitor that I could use across all my Amigas.

A good Multisync with RGB video inputs maybe?
I used to use an NEC 1810 Multisync at work, that had RGB Video-in on BNC connectors and could take a direct video feed. The PC connected to it (on DVI) was used for DVD authoring (my job at the time) and the RGB input was fed from an external Sony MPEG encoder with bog standard RGB PAL or NTSC. This allowed me to check the encoded video at the flick of a switch but I always thought that it would be an ideal Amiga monitor. Shame it cost silly money at the time. :(
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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2010, 03:04:12 AM »
Tread very lightly when looking for an Amiga monitor. I've been burned with at least one monitor that was supposed to sync down to 15 khz and it didn't it's rally trial and error. It blows my mind that in europe folks can go to the local retailer and you get a scart enabled tv.. Problem solved.

you can buy this and use an old VGA switchbox with all your amigas. You will also need one 23 pin to vga cable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/15Khz-RGB-CGA-Component-Video-VGA-Converter-Scaler-/120340188651?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

Youd think an A600 would be a nice little machine to take to a big retailer and see if they'll let you connect the machine to the various tv's. I tried it once and they told me no way and laughed out loud once they saw the commodore logo and the Amiga logo. Yet at another store they were cool with the MiniMIG as I told them it was an ARCADE machine prototype.

Once you get past the 15 klhz issue you have the pal 50hz issue to deal with. LIERBAG here on the Amiga.org forum told me that Phillips montiors will do 50hz in the usa but I have not tried them out.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2010, 03:21:03 AM »
Excuse the use of that word...but it just fits. Int's one of the few expletives allowed on US primetime Network TV here in the Puritan settled United States of America.
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2010, 04:33:31 AM »
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Tread very lightly when looking for an Amiga monitor. I've been burned with at least one monitor that was supposed to sync down to 15 khz and it didn't it's rally trial and error. It blows my mind that in europe folks can go to the local retailer and you get a scart enabled tv.. Problem solved.

you can buy this and use an old VGA switchbox with all your amigas. You will also need one 23 pin to vga cable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/15Khz-RGB-CGA-Component-Video-VGA-Converter-Scaler-/120340188651?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0



You know, I had looked at that converter once before and had forgotten about it. I guess I'll have to consider it.

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Youd think an A600 would be a nice little machine to take to a big retailer and see if they'll let you connect the machine to the various tv's. I tried it once and they told me no way and laughed out loud once they saw the commodore logo and the Amiga logo.


If that had been me, I would know where I would never go shopping again!


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Once you get past the 15 klhz issue you have the pal 50hz issue to deal with. LIERBAG here on the Amiga.org forum told me that Phillips montiors will do 50hz in the usa but I have not tried them out.


The information for the converter referenced above states "Automatic 50/60 Hz scan rate conversion to ensure sharp and glitch-free picture display on the monitor or projector."

Perhaps this solves the PAL 50Hz issue.

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2010, 04:59:37 AM »
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Tread very lightly when looking for an Amiga monitor. I've been burned with at least one monitor that was supposed to sync down to 15 khz and it didn't it's rally trial and error. It blows my mind that in europe folks can go to the local retailer and you get a scart enabled tv.. Problem solved.

Youd think an A600 would be a nice little machine to take to a big retailer and see if they'll let you connect the machine to the various tv's. I tried it once and they told me no way and laughed out loud once they saw the commodore logo and the Amiga logo. Yet at another store they were cool with the MiniMIG as I told them it was an ARCADE machine prototype..


It may be great to walk into any store here in the UK and buy a scart enabled TV or monitor, but have you seen the motion blur on even the latest and supposedly high spec LCD & Plasma sets. Until they finally fix out this problem I'm sticking with my old Microvitec and Commodore monitors.

I too took along an A1200 to one of the big TV retail stores a couple of years ago, and was told in no uncertain terms that they would not allow me to connect an ancient kid's toy to any of their sets as there was no way of telling what damage it might do... :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Amiga Friendly Monitor in the USA???
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2010, 05:17:40 AM »
Yes The Commodore 1084's were awesome... In the states we had the Toshiba TIMM, a 20" beast that worked as a TV and had an Amiga 15 klhz input. I had two. I sold them and have kicked myself in teh butt since. They worked perfectly. I only have a 2002 monitor that displays some flickering when I connect an AMiga to it. Better than nothing I guess.
 

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« Reply #29 from previous page: August 17, 2010, 05:23:03 AM »
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It may be great to walk into any store here in the UK and buy a scart enabled TV or monitor, but have you seen the motion blur on even the latest and supposedly high spec LCD & Plasma sets. Until they finally fix out this problem I'm sticking with my old Microvitec and Commodore monitors.

I too took along an A1200 to one of the big TV retail stores a couple of years ago, and was told in no uncertain terms that they would not allow me to connect an ancient kid's toy to any of their sets as there was no way of telling what damage it might do... :rolleyes:

I still use a 21" Samsung CRT monitor just because of the smearing problem. Use it on one Amiga and my Windows machine (switch box). Great picture!
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