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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 29, 2010, 11:30:08 PM »
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I liked all Amigas for the OS and it's capabilites, not for the hardware cases. I thought almost every Commodore case made was junk. Terrible layout, hard to access the inards and poor designs. The only exceptions where they came close to getting it right was with the 3000T and 4000T. Why did Commodore find it so hard to make an easily expandable and well ventilated case?

Just on looks alone, I though the 4000 desktop toaster looked the best.

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I think you have to seriously consider the target market and the planned expansions, not those expansions which were later dreamed up by third parties.

Now there is also the reality that this was at a time when engineering, marketing, software and finance departments within computer companies were starting to distance themselves from each other. Remember that early on the companies were smaller and the hardware and software guys were close if not the same people. Heck looking at most of the products out on the market today, I think you could make the case that these groups do not even talk to each other anymore. (well, there is facebook and myspace)

As long as were bashing expansion, let's be fair, It seems to me that serious expansion of many of the Dell, Compaq, Mac and IBM systems presented the same or even greater challenges than the Commodore products. I'd stack the expandability and modularity of an A2000 up against almost any computer of the past or today.

In one sense you could say that the design of the A500 was stifling, but on the other hand you could expand it according to the amount of room you had on the left side of your desk.
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2010, 11:49:42 PM »
Favorite Amiga:  A500 because that's the first one I owned and did the most programming, gaming, music, drawing and everything else on in those days.  A1000 would be a close second just because it's the original one I saw in 1985 in a computer store.  I still have it.

Least Favorite Amiga:  I don't have experience with every amiga model so I couldn't tell you.  They all seem to have their purpose.  Maybe the A500+ because it broke compatibility with the 500, right?  Life was easy in the early days when there were just the 1000, 500 and 2000.
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2010, 01:01:12 AM »
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I think you have to seriously consider the target market and the planned expansions, not those expansions which were later dreamed up by third parties.


I'd stack the expandability and modularity of an A2000 up against almost any computer of the past or today.

In one sense you could say that the design of the A500 was stifling, but on the other hand you could expand it according to the amount of room you had on the left side of your desk.


your example of the A2000 and the A500 illustrates how the target market determined the design and expandablity.  A2000=professional market, expandable via zorro slots, A500 home user, games.  Yet they still put the side connector which meant you didn't need to sell it and buy an A2000 when you wanted to expand.
 

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2010, 02:21:01 AM »
Amiga 4000T & Amiga 1000 are my most fav models.

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2010, 02:23:49 AM »
favorite A3000T unlimited expansion only negative no AGA
Least favorite A500 just too big, A600 is almost a tie
 

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2010, 05:12:47 AM »
My most favourite at the time and all-time is the A1200. Excellent value for money and very upgradeable for an all-in-one keyboard computer.

Though my first Amiga was an A500 it is my least favourite. Followed closely by the A600.

I will add that my most coveted Amiga was the A4000/40. Even today on eBay these machines go for more than some Powermac G5 systems, and that I can not abide. My A1200 will do for my retro computing needs.
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2010, 08:22:23 AM »
I kinda liked the A600. Too bad it wasn't very expandable. :|
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2010, 10:37:31 AM »
Favourite has to be the A2000 due to the fact that it is built like a brike-poo house and has so much space inside that you'd never need to put that mobo into a tower case.

Least favourite Amiga that I've owned has to be the A3000.  It has the potential to be so good, but that crappy case design was just too small.  Designed by an artist rather than an engineer.

Then there's the A600 which is the one Amiga I've never been tempted to own because of the missing keypad.  Launched just before the A1200, I know several people who dumped Commodore after buying one because they felt ripped off by the quick arrival of the superior A1200 and were not prepared to hanf over more cash to buy the machine they should have had to start with.
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2010, 10:45:26 AM »
hm, tough call. I'd say a600 is least fav. or maybe CD32.
though I do like a600 small size.

and I hate that Walker thingy, but thankfully it doesnt count.

most fav would be A4000D or perhaps A3000D, depending what cards it has..
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2010, 11:50:24 AM »
The A1200.
 

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2010, 12:15:47 PM »
I have to say that I really like them all.

I guess atm my favorite is the A600 though. My living room WHDload 600 will finally get a 030 when the new accelerator comes out. :-)
 

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2010, 12:35:51 PM »
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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2010, 01:21:47 PM »
Hmmm well it's a tough call for the worst, they are bad for different reasons (price/build quality/lack of improvement to chipset for a gaming machine)

Favourite for me is probably the A1000, my A1000, a beautiful silent well designed compact 3 box design from a time of PCs the size of a house with jet engine sounding fans and crappy all in one Macs with tiny monochrome screens.

It's either that or the 3000, but the ECS update was a joke and the A3000 had no technical superiority so it's a styling thing. So A1000 it is then all things considered, a heavyweight boxer in the guise of a super model :)
 

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2010, 04:04:35 PM »
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the A3000 had no technical superiority


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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2010, 05:07:31 PM »
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I think you have to seriously consider the target market and the planned expansions, not those expansions which were later dreamed up by third parties.
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No excuses..... I could pick on any model, but I'll start with the desktop 3000. Obviously it was given expansion slots and intended to be expanded with memory and other CPU cards.

Need to add some more of that fabulous Zip ram? ... no problem, just completely disassemble the entire computer down to the frame to get to the memory sockets... simple. What was the target audience there, erector set engineers? :)

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Re: Most/least fave amiga model?
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2010, 06:12:09 PM »
The 600 is a funny thing. Back in the day, it was commonly considered a mistake by Commodore. But with the PCMCIA slot, it has some nice capabilities today that the more popular 500 lacks, such as easy file transfers.
I'd love to have one. Its kinda cute.