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Weird SCSI problem
« on: July 11, 2010, 10:44:40 PM »
After spending the last couple days trying everything I can think of, I'm finally throwing in the towel and asking for help.:hammer: I finally got the time and the last couple parts I needed to get my A4000T set up. Everything seemed to be going well until I tried to get my SCSI drive to work. I'm using a CS-MKIII as my controller and I disabled the A4000T's scsi using the NoNCRscsi module loaded into my deneb's flash rom (although I have tried this without it, too). I have active terminators at both ends of the scsi cable with the CS and hdd in the middle. The hdd is currently jumpered for ID 2 and has term power disabled. Here's the problem, I can see the hdd in hdtoolbox using cybppc.device. I can create partitions using hdtoolbox but they refuse to be mounted, as far as I can tell. Normally, I'd set up the partition sizes, file system, then save and reboot when prompted after exiting hdtoolbox, and finally format the partitions after rebooting when the names I gave the partions would usually appear on the workbench. Except now the partitions don't appear on the workbench after the reboot. They appear to be there in hdtoolbox but I can't seem to get them to mount in workbench. I'm running a fairly clean install of ClassicWB 3.9 and I've tried both FFS and SFS with the same result. They also don't show up in the early boot menu. The only hardware change that I've made coming from my A4000D is that I updated my CS to the latest official firmware. My system is currently being booted from my CF to ide adapter and everything is pretty much stock except for the deneb, picasso IV, and CSMKIII. Anybody with any ideas on what I'm doing wrong would be appreciated.
Escom A4000T (CS-PPC, Picasso IV, Deneb, DVD burner, scsi->ide->cf adapter, 36gb scsi hdd, 750zip)
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 11:52:50 PM »
Did you set the automount flag in HDToolbox? Try issuing a diskchange command to the volume (DH0:, etc). It might show up then. Or try formatting from the command line.
 

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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 12:33:44 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;569939
Did you set the automount flag in HDToolbox? Try issuing a diskchange command to the volume (DH0:, etc). It might show up then. Or try formatting from the command line.


I set the automount flag and tried formatting from the command line with no luck already. I'll try the diskchange command whenever I get back home again.
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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 03:01:01 AM »
Having re-read your post, you might need to adjust the jumpers on your drive. I noticed a dramatic increase in the sensitivity of the SCSI controller when I updated the firmware on my board. Start by turning on term power. What other jumpers are there?

But first, see if there's anything odd in the Cyberstorm boot menu, particularly the SCSI page. Some settings there might have been altered/reset by the firmware upgrade.
 

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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 04:52:43 AM »
CS MkIII doesn't supply term power!
« Last Edit: July 12, 2010, 04:55:26 AM by zipper »
 

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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 06:51:47 AM »
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CS MkIII doesn't supply term power!


No, but the drive does/might.
Fair question though: are you using ACTIVE terminators? EDIT: Sorry, misread, you are.

Also, try removing the NoNCRPatch from the Deneb, it might actually be causing you trouble. The Cyberstorm itself in it's own menu/bootrom has this option, but first try without.

And indeed, as said before, please do check the SCSI settings in the CS bootmenu!
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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 07:26:26 AM »
"The hdd is currently jumpered for ID 2 and has term power disabled" he wrote.
 

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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 07:29:51 AM »
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The hdd is currently jumpered for ID 2 and has term power disabled.


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CS MkIII doesn't supply term power!


This probably is the problem - you need to have at least 1 device supply term power to the bus, otherwise there's no termination!
 

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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 04:37:42 PM »
Ok, I've tried with term power and still no luck. I'm using active terminators and I've disabled the NoNCRPatch, too. Any particular setting I should be looking for in the CS SCSI menu that might be a cause?
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Re: Weird SCSI problem
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 11:59:59 PM »
What does the SCSI menu say right now?