WinUAE exposing how crappy Windows is

[Arkhan]

Did you buy all these softwares, or did you lolpirate them.

[LoadWB]

A typical Windows Tech day is reformat, Reinstall OS, Reinstall all the Apps, re-setup all the apps.

Interesting.  Do continue.  What, pray tell, brings you to this conclusion?  And, please quantify your terms: what is typical? what is a tech? and what time period constitutes a day?

Because, let me tell you, supporting several hundred Windows machines, this most certainly is not my typical day.  Ever.  In 15 years.  In fact, it is fairly infrequent that I come across a Windows installation so hosed that this is necessary.  I would say, perhaps once a month, one out of several hundred Windows machines, and never the same machine more than once.

Every OS Sucks
http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html

[AmigaHeretic]

Did you buy all these softwares, or did you lolpirate them.

I own them.  Maya I got discounted through work, but was still the most expensive. All MS software I get free through MSDN.  Maya's an older version now (2008). Old being a somewhat relative term since a new version is released about every 6 months much like PS.  I got mine 2 years ago.  In that time it's been version 2008(mine), 2009, 2010, and 2011 is out now.

[AmigaHeretic]

Interesting.  Do continue.  What, pray tell, brings you to this conclusion?  And, please quantify your terms: what is typical? what is a tech? and what time period constitutes a day?

Because, let me tell you, supporting several hundred Windows machines, this most certainly is not my typical day.  Ever.  In 15 years.  In fact, it is fairly infrequent that I come across a Windows installation so hosed that this is necessary.  I would say, perhaps once a month, one out of several hundred Windows machines, and never the same machine more than once.

Every OS Sucks
http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html

A tech that works on "personal" computers.  

I'm guessing your "several hundred" Windows machines are used in a business environment where people are not "as likely" (though I'm sure it happens) to be installing random software, surfing porn, and just generally fucking around.  And are more likely just used as Dumb terminals running software off a server somewhere.  


If you set up Windows and never change anything, which I'd bet is the typical box at your work, then Windows is fine.

However if you actually "use it" Windows has a lot more problems.  Since you work in a little box outside of the reality real techs work in, I'll forgive you for not knowing what the real world is like.

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[Arkhan]

However if you actually "use it" Windows has a lot more problems.  Since you work in a little box outside of the reality real techs work in, I'll forgive you for not knowing what the real world is like.
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Man, someone ate some Ignorance w/ a side of Condescension for breakfast this morning.

You'd be surprised how much stuff people do at work on work computers.  

also, given that I am officially my family's computerfixer, and that I've dealt with at least 20 of their machines/mishaps by now, and they've never required a full blown wipe.    These are computers used in the real world.  Every day.

i think maybe you should just give up and stop talking, because you're just digging yourself a huge hole with a tombstone marked FAIL.

[AmigaHeretic]

Man, someone ate some Ignorance w/ a side of Condescension for breakfast this morning.

You'd be surprised how much stuff people do at work on work computers.  

also, given that I am officially my family's computerfixer, and that I've dealt with at least 20 of their machines/mishaps by now, and they've never required a full blown wipe.    These are computers used in the real world.  Every day.

i think maybe you should just give up and stop talking, because you're just digging yourself a huge hole with a tombstone marked FAIL.

I'm just saying, we all have a different perspective which is based on the corner of the world we see.

I did a Yellow Pages search for "computer repair" in Tallahassee, FL

94 computer repair businesses came up in an initial search.

I'm sure they are all just like the Maytag repair man though.  Sitting their with nothing to do because Windows is so super sweet.

[halvliter'n]

LOL. Was it my big mouth and A.org hackers or the bad weather here which made us lose the connection with the ISP in over two hours.

[halvliter'n]

You are making a blatant mistake in assuming they are even aware of the intrusion. New threats invariably appear before updates to combat said threats.

As the_leander says, if you are running as admin, you are taking an unnecessary risk. If you are admin, then almost every process you create is running as admin. That includes any malware you pick up.

The amiga is a single user platform, but the majority of other systems employ a multiuser model for a damned good reason.

OK, I will not be lazy.

[AmigaHeretic]

LOL. Was it my big mouth and A.org hackers or the bad weather here which made us lose the connection with the ISP in over two hours.

Are you using a Windows machine?  Could be your registry. :hammer:

[AmigaHeretic]

You are making a blatant mistake in assuming they are even aware of the intrusion. New threats invariably appear before updates to combat said threats.

As the_leander says, if you are running as admin, you are taking an unnecessary risk. If you are admin, then almost every process you create is running as admin. That includes any malware you pick up.

Great so I should run as a limited user while my Malware runs as Admin.  

The amiga is a single user platform, but the majority of other systems employ a multiuser model for a damned good reason.

What reason is that?

[LoadWB]

A tech that works on "personal" computers.  

I'm guessing your "several hundred" Windows machines are used in a business environment where people are not "as likely" (though I'm sure it happens) to be installing random software, surfing porn, and just generally fucking around.  And are more likely just used as Dumb terminals running software off a server somewhere.  


If you set up Windows and never change anything, which I'd bet is the typical box at your work, then Windows is fine.

However if you actually "use it" Windows has a lot more problems.  Since you work in a little box outside of the reality real techs work in, I'll forgive you for not knowing what the real world is like..

Wrong on all counts, smart ass.  I support business and home computers, and I will refrain from making specific statements which would serve to prove your conclusions to be false on other grounds.  Just as you make biased and ungrounded assertions on topics about which you do not know enough to make such conclusions, you make an assumption about what I do, and are patently incorrect.

I would provide you with the opportunity to spin the wheel again, perhaps even make other statements about my life about which you know absolutely squat, but you will most assuredly shoot wide and miss by far again.

[halvliter'n]

Are you using a Windows machine?  Could be your registry. :hammer:

Yes, wondows is a bundle of shit, and this computer is hacked now.:lol:

[LoadWB]

I'm just saying, we all have a different perspective which is based on the corner of the world we see.

I did a Yellow Pages search for "computer repair" in Tallahassee, FL

94 computer repair businesses came up in an initial search.

I'm sure they are all just like the Maytag repair man though.  Sitting their with nothing to do because Windows is so super sweet.

THEIR -- THERE (inb4 grammar Nazi. Communications is paramount to the survival of a society, and part of communication is the proper use of the communications protocols.)

Interestingly, I field calls and inquiries at least a couple of times a week asking where someone can get their Mac repaired locally, and I can only direct them to one place.  They huff and sigh and moan and complain.

The reason you will find 94 business listed for Tallahassee, FL, performing computer repair (I notice your search was not limited to Windows repair,) and your search will likely not turn up several dozen other businesses like my own, is that we have literally thousands of businesses in Tallahassee.  Computers break.

As I stated before, in many cases it is a hardware issue.  What will be the ultimate demise of your Amiga?  Hardware.  What is the ultimate demise of most computers which I contact?  Hardware.  But, the question often becomes, why does modern hardware fail so much?  The simple answer is that we, as consumers, often demand to stay on the bleeding edge of technology.  The bleeding edge is very sharp.

I did work last week at the airport.  I replaced an AT&T Paradyne modem manufactured in 1993 which ran a 9.6k frame-relay circuit for an aviation ground computer network.  The replacement modem was another AT&T Paradyne manufactured in 1995.  But why use such old technology?  Because it is tried, true, well-tested, and found to be exceptionally reliable.  The same could be said about the Amiga and other "retro" or "classic" machines -- they are hardened technology which just work (though, not limited to such machines as quite a bit of older PC hardware is the same.)

Much the same that 160GB 2.5" laptop hard drives were considered unreliable and had high failure rates when they were introduced.  Now, 160GB 2.5" laptop hard drives are considered the low-end staple, and they are known and expected to have full life spans.

But, back to my counterpoint.  We have thousands of business in Tallahassee.  Each of them has at least one computer.  The majority of them run Windows, and some of them run Mac.  Irrespective of the operating system, all of them need technology support to a large degree because these business are run by people who have much better things to do during their 18 hour work day than do necessary upgrades or installations on their computer, irrespective of the easy learning curve.  Much like I do not have the time, motivation, nor desire right now to change the oil in my car or learn how to work on it when it does not run -- I have experts to whom I defer while I continue to run my business (interchangeable with "life" for other peoples' circumstances,) much as the same shop which works on my car defers to my expertise for technology.

[AmigaHeretic]

THEIR -- THERE (inb4 grammar Nazi. Communications is paramount to the survival of a society, and part of communication is the proper use of the communications protocols.)

Interestingly, I field calls and inquiries at least a couple of times a week asking where someone can get their Mac repaired locally, and I can only direct them to one place.  They huff and sigh and moan and complain.

The reason you will find 94 business listed for Tallahassee, FL, performing computer repair (I notice your search was not limited to Windows repair,) and your search will likely not turn up several dozen other businesses like my own, is that we have literally thousands of businesses in Tallahassee.  Computers break.

As I stated before, in many cases it is a hardware issue.  What will be the ultimate demise of your Amiga?  Hardware.  What is the ultimate demise of most computers which I contact?  Hardware.  But, the question often becomes, why does modern hardware fail so much?  The simple answer is that we, as consumers, often demand to stay on the bleeding edge of technology.  The bleeding edge is very sharp.

I did work last week at the airport.  I replaced an AT&T Paradyne modem manufactured in 1993 which ran a 9.6k frame-relay circuit for an aviation ground computer network.  The replacement modem was another AT&T Paradyne manufactured in 1995.  But why use such old technology?  Because it is tried, true, well-tested, and found to be exceptionally reliable.  The same could be said about the Amiga and other "retro" or "classic" machines -- they are hardened technology which just work (though, not limited to such machines as quite a bit of older PC hardware is the same.)

Much the same that 160GB 2.5" laptop hard drives were considered unreliable and had high failure rates when they were introduced.  Now, 160GB 2.5" laptop hard drives are considered the low-end staple, and they are known and expected to have full life spans.

But, back to my counterpoint.  We have thousands of business in Tallahassee.  Each of them has at least one computer.  The majority of them run Windows, and some of them run Mac.  Irrespective of the operating system, all of them need technology support to a large degree because these business are run by people who have much better things to do during their 18 hour work day than do necessary upgrades or installations on their computer, irrespective of the easy learning curve.  Much like I do not have the time, motivation, nor desire right now to change the oil in my car or learn how to work on it when it does not run -- I have experts to whom I defer while I continue to run my business (interchangeable with "life" for other peoples' circumstances,) much as the same shop which works on my car defers to my expertise for technology.

See, look at your post. You are easily 10 times smarter than me.  You know Windows is a pain in the ass, often.  

[Arkhan]

I'm just saying, we all have a different perspective which is based on the corner of the world we see.
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The corner you see is empty and has just you in it I think.

See, look at your post. You are easily 10 times smarter than me.  You know Windows is a pain in the ass, often.  

Also, either you're a slow learner, or you are just plain clueless.   Every OS is a pain in the ass.  They all have things we don't like that get in the way.  They are all usually pretty easy to deal with.  They then stop becoming pains in the ass.

Kinda like that registry.  If you'd just keep your misinformed fingers out of there, you'd be set!

[warpdesign]

Does it really make sense that all your Apps should be so tied into the OS that if you have to reinstall Windows you have to reinstall and reset up every single application on your computer?

Don't you think apps are tied on the Amiga as well ?

Most MUI apps will require libs/mcc to be copied into mui:libs. Reinstalling your OS means reinstalling *every single MCC/libs* required by your app. And there's no way to list which mcc is used by which app. Oh, and I'm not even talking about version problems (for example mcc making crash some apps,...) In addition to that, if your app added some stuff into startup-sequence/user-startup, it also means readding assign, path,...

Amiga's way of working with apps/dirs certainly isn't better. Sure, there are things that suck on Windows. But what's important:
 - what sucks in Windows ?
 - Or what can be improved in AmigaOS ?

I would say the second... Pointing at Windows flaws won't improve AmigaOS...