The X1000 will be > $2,225

[xeron]

ExecSG is not a continued development and did not exist before the OS4 project began.

Your point being?

Of Intuition, Workbench, and the shell - only Hyperion really knows how much - if any - of the original code was actually used.

I actually know! ;-)

The fact that much of it was written in 68K assembler really strains credibility that any of it was particularly useful, and Hyperion developers have said as much.

A lot of it was C. As I recall (and it wasn't secret), it required 3 different C compilers and an old Sun workstation to compile without changes in its original state, though.

[redrumloa]

Anyway we will all be here to see how it goes won't we?

I risk being labeled a troll for this next link, so know before hand I am not implying the X1000 will never come out. I just want to give you a tiny bit of perspective of history you missed.
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29050&highlight=vapor
 
Enjoy!
 
Hmm, that list has not been updated in several years...

[desiv]

I risk being labeled a troll for this next link,

:lol:
That has to win the award for the most subtle trolling ever!!!

I'm not going to say you are vaporware....  No way!!  Not in a highly emotionally charged thread...

But.. and this is just for historical perspective mind you, I will include this link to vaporware hardware, not that I am in any way implying you might be...

It's just an off-topic link...  No reason for anyone to take offense there..

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Wow, that was a trolling of beauty!!!!  

:laughing:

desiv
(So, was this the "if they're going to accuse me of being a troll, I might as well do it" post???  Because, I didn't think you were trolling before.  No question here tho..)

[redrumloa]

:lol:
That has to win the award for the most subtle trolling ever!!!

I'm not going to say you are vaporware....  No way!!  Not in a highly emotionally charged thread...

But.. and this is just for historical perspective mind you, I will include this link to vaporware hardware, not that I am in any way implying you might be...

It's just an off-topic link...  No reason for anyone to take offense there..

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Wow, that was a trolling of beauty!!!!  

:laughing:

desiv
(So, was this the "if they're going to accuse me of being a troll, I might as well do it" post???  Because, I didn't think you were trolling before.  No question here tho..)

Err, were you paying attention to who I posted it for and what had been discussed before? This is a user who by his own admission has been away from the platform since 1997 and missed all of the negatives.

Think what you want, but if I have something negative to say about the X1000 I will say it outright.

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I see you registered in October 2009, that also explains a lot...

[DAX]

Err, were you paying attention to who I posted it for and what had been discussed before? This is a user who by his own admission has been away from the platform since 1997 and missed all of the negatives.

Think what you want, but if I have something negative to say about the X1000 I will say it outright.

-Edit-
I see you registered in October 2009, that also explains a lot...

Nice read, don't worry i don't think you are a troll
My feeling is that we have a  change of pace/intentions/motivation in the OS4 dev camp, but as I said already, we are here, facts will tells us how it goes "this" time.

[desiv]

Err, were you paying attention to who I posted it for and what had been discussed before? This is a user who by his own admission has been away from the platform since 1997 and missed all of the negatives.

Think what you want, but if I have something negative to say about the X1000 I will say it outright.

Oh, so if you are dealing with someone who is a problem, then you can say what you want and it's not trolling???

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I see you registered in October 2009, that also explains a lot...

And what exactly does that mean??? :confused: As I said, I didn't think you were trolling before, but I thought that last comment was (IMHO) trolling...

But I didn't realize that a moderator on this forum should be able to treat users differently because they only recently joined...  Apparently, I'm not "in the club"?

Before, I thought you were just upset about being called a troll when you weren't and reacting..  Not anymore..

That won't be a problem anymore....

desiv

[F0LLETT]

But I didn't realize that a moderator on this forum should be able to treat users differently because they only recently joined...  Apparently, I'm not "in the club"?
desiv

Dont waste your breath, Im considered beneath everyone cause I have a "low standing" here. What ever the hell that means.

On topic, guess we will all have to wait and see with regards to the X1000.

[redrumloa]

Oh, so if you are dealing with someone who is a problem, then you can say what you want and it's not trolling???

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And what exactly does that mean??? :confused: As I said, I didn't think you were trolling before, but I thought that last comment was (IMHO) trolling...

But I didn't realize that a moderator on this forum should be able to treat users differently because they only recently joined...  Apparently, I'm not "in the club"?

Before, I thought you were just upset about being called a troll when you weren't and reacting..  Not anymore..

That won't be a problem anymore....

desiv

The person I replied to didn't think I was trolling, yet you still do? BTW there is no "the club" and I wasn't implying as much. It simply meant you probably missed the history too, but many of us here lived it. You missed my point entirely and you continue to miss it. Think what you want, you obviously have your mind made up.

[Retro_71]

Starting to get way off topic but here is my 2c and just for the record i have been around for years and years just never reg until 2007.
I build Computer/Servers and Networks for a living (yes i know u don't want to here it but a bit of background is ok...), anyway from a Tech stand point this system is so over prices i can build a Mega system for cheaper then this price so let say its not meant for normal humans and if its a Hobby its not meant for many hobbyist and if its for developers then its meant for only really Die hard ones and even if this is the first batch how much cheaper will the others be (if there is anyone else after this batch that wants to buy them) the question is who and how many people was it meant for i am still trying to figure that one out.
Point is Old technology at very very new technology prices, can i afford one hell yes i can afford a few in my Amiga fund BUT i wont buy it, it not on my radar and wont be. LOL i rather hope for and buy Natami/FPGA Arcade and a few others before this. If you going to take the time to make something why make it with old technology i don't get it i can't sell 4 month old computers to clients and tell them there top of the range so why are they thinking that we will fall for it?
Anyway wish them luck to whom ever they are targeting this system to but i will not be me or anyone i know around me here is Sydney.
That my 2 sec and i will shut up now. and do try stay on topic although i have had fun reading some of the posts here.....

[motrucker]

Is there a severe shortage of lithium these days? I would think Amiga users would be excited about the X1000, even if it is way over priced. The high price is nothing new for new Amiga computers.

[Retro_71]

New Amiga? hmmmmmm maybe in name, Amiga was cutting edge when it was introduced what i see here is expensive old technology at 6 core prices. To me it just doesn't feel like an Amiga, it look like any other PC/Mac around at the moment in truth i am far more excited about FPGA Arcade/Natami and other projects then this. what can this do that my Quad core at work or home cant using win 7, what is there to make me want to beg for a X1000... nothing i wish i can think otherwise but it comes down to another PC/Mac look alike with an Amiga name sorry but this does get my juice flowing or anything else for that matter.
I can build dozens of computer that look better, faster and a more personalized then this "Amiga" and that using store bought MB/HDD and graphics cards. All it has in OS4..... not really a point to spend any amount of money on....

[DAX]

New Amiga? hmmmmmm maybe in name, Amiga was cutting edge when it was introduced what i see here is expensive old technology at 6 core prices. To me it just doesn't feel like an Amiga, it look like any other PC/Mac around at the moment in truth i am far more excited about FPGA Arcade/Natami and other projects then this. what can this do that my Quad core at work or home cant using win 7, what is there to make me want to beg for a X1000... nothing i wish i can think otherwise but it comes down to another PC/Mac look alike with an Amiga name sorry but this does get my juice flowing or anything else for that matter.
I can build dozens of computer that look better, faster and a more personalized then this "Amiga" and that using store bought MB/HDD and graphics cards. All it has in OS4..... not really a point to spend any amount of money on....

Amiga was cutting edge... for a few years (they had better used Ranger in the A500 no questions about it, poor J.Miner). From your avatar I presume you are a cassic afficionado that thought about Amiga as a game console, however after C= screwed up (being late with new chip-sets) and the world changed (migrated to more powerful off the shelf graphics processing units), Amiga became a professional workstation for media authoring (and little more).
Those that grew up professionally with it like the idea of a new AmigaOS based workstation, and since the world has changed since then, it is a no brainer the latter will reflect just that (with some added xena spice).
For game loving people, all Amiga game creators offer the goods on PS3/X360.
As for your building capabilities, they are very welcome in amigaland, why don't you show us a MOBO design you made (or make right now) for AmigaOS, there will be many persons interested if it's as interesting as you say.

[Retro_71]

Actually you assume wrong i was a programmer first and tinker second i just have that avatar as i couldn't find one better and i am lazy.
I don't design motherboards i just make computers and from my stand point why should i pay for something that cost more and doesn't do all i want? could your X1000 out perform my 2 yo quad core with 4GB of ram and a ATI 5870??? my point is if it was a world beater then i would buy one but it isn't its an average spec machine with a high price tag (maybe later it will be cheaper) but its not an Intel I7 980X or AMD X6.
I really do wish you luck but i think you went for a very weird middle ground in pricing and in specs for this PC (yes PC which means personal computer.....) and like i said it just doesn't grab me by the Ba*** and shake me to rush out and buy one.
Good luck and all the best with the X1000 i do hope you sell all of them and make a profit.

[DAX]

Actually you assume wrong i was a programmer first and tinker second i just have that avatar as i couldn't find one better and i am lazy.
I don't design motherboards i just make computers and from my stand point why should i pay for something that cost more and doesn't do all i want? could your X1000 out perform my 2 yo quad core with 4GB of ram and a ATI 5870??? my point is if it was a world beater then i would buy one but it isn't its an average spec machine with a high price tag (maybe later it will be cheaper) but its not an Intel I7 980X or AMD X6.
I really do wish you luck but i think you went for a very weird middle ground in pricing and in specs for this PC (yes PC which means personal computer.....) and like i said it just doesn't grab me by the Ba*** and shake me to rush out and buy one.
Good luck and all the best with the X1000 i do hope you sell all of them and make a profit.

Fine
There is also people that is willing to support the dream of having (in the near future) a usable Amiga home computer (could be MOS or AROS not just AOS) and "dream", at least at home, to avoid using Windows.

That dream pass through different steps (any NG format has its own different paradigm/approach), but the good thing is, I see exciting developments on all camps, which will definitely bring good fruits down the line (even cheaper but powerful machines as far as AOS is concerned).

[ajlwalker]

New Amiga? hmmmmmm maybe in name, Amiga was cutting edge when it was introduced what i see here is expensive old technology at 6 core prices. To me it just doesn't feel like an Amiga, it look like any other PC/Mac around at the moment in truth i am far more excited about FPGA Arcade/Natami and other projects then this. what can this do that my Quad core at work or home cant using win 7, what is there to make me want to beg for a X1000... nothing i wish i can think otherwise but it comes down to another PC/Mac look alike with an Amiga name sorry but this does get my juice flowing or anything else for that matter.
I can build dozens of computer that look better, faster and a more personalized then this "Amiga" and that using store bought MB/HDD and graphics cards. All it has in OS4..... not really a point to spend any amount of money on....

I keep reading "what can this do that my PC can't".  It is quite simple, this can run OS4.  Your PC can't.

It is up to you to decide if this is the "killer app" for you or not.  Fact remains, your PC can't run it.

Oh, and Amiga wasn't always cutting edge.  No way could the A1200, A4000 or CD32 be called cutting edge.

[Retro_71]

Very True and look i do hope you sell heaps but for me i wish the specs were better, then i would buy one. Hopefully when you make the next version it will be either more powerful (then i don't mind spending the money) or cheaper.
I don't really follow any camp and at the same time i follow all (i have heaps of system that i love to mess around with and put all the Different AOS on them).
Can't wait to see what will happen in the next year or so should be very interesting.