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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 08:55:16 PM »
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2010, 08:57:32 PM »
Quote from: persia;565671
Wonder why you post the price in US$ when it was given in Sterling, not all of us are Americans here, in this country we use Australian dollars, you don't see me converting all prices to AU$, do you.  The price is north of 1500 quid, what the street price is in New York, Brisbane or Timbuktu is not known...

I am from the US and a large number of members here are from the US. It was announced in British Pounds and can be converted to any currency you wish.

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=USD;to=EUR;amt=1

The original Amiga 1000 was launched in the USA and the comparison has been made all along of the X1000 to Amiga 1000 pricing.

BTW, since you asked it is approximately 2,550AUD.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2010, 10:07:47 PM »
Most of the people who submit negative posts about the X1000's specs or pricing or design etc are the same people who from the very beginning made it quite clear that they didn't want one.  Either because they're more interested in MOS systems or AROS systems or just generally not interested at all.

That much I can understand.  Everyone has different tastes and/or personal circumstances.  But, given that these people have long since decided that they aren't interested in the X1000, why do they care how "bad" the pricing is or how "poor" the spec is? You don't want to buy one.  So.... it's not going to affect you is it.  
There's only one remaining reason why such people would want to complain about every aspect of the product, and that's because they're trolls and have nothing better to do with their lives than pour scorn on other people's interests.  Bizarre if you ask me.  But there you go, that's the world we live in.

Of course, everyone is entitled to an opinion.  I have an opinion on Apple products, which is that I despise them (even though I own an iPhone :confused:).  That's an opinion I'm very much entitled to, and I even voice it every now and then.  But I probably wouldn't make it my business to constantly pour scorn on the new iPad or the iPhone G4 or whatever new Apple product comes along, because the fact is I don't want to buy one so I don't care how crap they are or over-priced they are or how locked in they are or whatever.  If someone else likes Apple stuff, I'm happy to just let them get on with it and enjoy it.

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2010, 10:10:32 PM »
Oouch... it is difficult to view the positive sides but at least they demoed the motherboard and it is not vapourware.

Quoting Piru, yeah, that price is INSANE.

Sorry Trevor if you read this, you seem like a nice guy with the right Amiga spirit (something I think leaders of the OS that is known as the OS built from the one and only Workbench source should have) and I dont want to insult or piss on your companies progress because you have invested time and money into this but I can not resist thinking logically and ventilating my view here.

Maybe we do not know the real potential just yet? Ok, I give it 6 more months before I make a judgement.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2010, 10:17:48 PM »
It is pricey but I think the biggest problem with it is that big box PCs/Amigas look bulky... even at the work we are losing our last tower PCs soon. It probably would sell better if it was very tiny, less features, but still the same price tag...
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2010, 10:23:42 PM »
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It is pricey but I think the biggest problem with it is that big box PCs/Amigas look bulky... even at the work we are losing our last tower PCs soon. It probably would sell better if it was very tiny, less features, but still the same price tag...


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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2010, 10:24:59 PM »
"North of 1500" GBP?  I'll stick to my original guess of 200-350 units sold in the first 12 months, including the 100 Dev boards.  ACube's 460 looks mighty cheap compared to the A1X1K.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2010, 12:46:56 AM »
These aeon guys are crazy comparing the a1000 with this experiment to pump money from the users.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2010, 12:55:05 AM »
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"presumably a whole system, will be more than $2,225"

Begs the question what constitutes a whole system? In A1000 days, that would mean:

* A1000 (Keyboard and mouse)
* A 1084.
* Operating system

I don't think you will get a monitor in this new system. But I could be wrong. And I am a little taken back at the cost. Still interested. But after reading above thread and threads here; I do finally understand what 'troll' means. It's apparently any one who proceeds in conversation with reason and critical thinking about 'new generation' Amiga offerings. You're deemed negative, a troll, a Debbie the downer. I get it. Or someone who is just nuttier than Chinese chicken salad.

I would guess in this case it would mean x1000 case, fully populated mobo, gfx card, memory, sound, OS4.x and the keyboard.

And nope.. I dont think you qualify as a troll for being skeptical about price tag or coming with constructive criticism.

I myself have doubts about this project as well and think the price is too steep for what you get. I hope at the same time they do succeed even though i have my doubts.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2010, 12:58:07 AM »
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These aeon guys are crazy comparing the a1000 with this experiment to pump money from the users.

Pumping money? Do you have any idea how much it costs to produce such hardware on such small scale?? I highly doubt there is much profits to be made here at all.
The people who are investing in this project are risking a whole lot on the success of this project.
I think it is childish to call this a money pumping scheme.

Do you seriously think they are doing this just to take advantage out of potential customers?
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2010, 01:08:24 AM »
Yes, now aeon is a bunch of a non profit guys giving new hardware to the amiga community, just for arround 2000 eur, yeah a bargain!

Pruduce any kind of hardware have their cost, yes,  but still overpriced.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2010, 01:46:21 AM »
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"North of 1500" GBP?  I'll stick to my original guess of 200-350 units sold in the first 12 months, including the 100 Dev boards.  ACube's 460 looks mighty cheap compared to the A1X1K.


1500+ GBP is rather more than I could reasonably justify for a hobby system. Of course, the thing with justification is that it's sometimes easier not to bother. After all, if I think how much I've spent on computer kit over the years...

Still, I guess it's not bad news for ACube.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2010, 02:09:33 AM »
OUCH - Insane price, and the A1000 comparisons are pointless to me.  Was mildly interested in these, but not at that price.  Might have more interest in it if just the motherboards are ever available (at a reasonable price).  At near $2300 in my currency for a hobby system, nah, lol.  I had a difficult enough time justifying the expense of my SAM.

Good news for Acube anyways.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2010, 02:10:09 AM »
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Yes, now aeon is a bunch of a non profit guys giving new hardware to the amiga community, just for arround 2000 eur, yeah a bargain!

Pruduce any kind of hardware have their cost, yes,  but still overpriced.


Nobody is saying anything about non profit. Thats a strawman.

Economy of scale is very much the case for computer parts. Does that mean this particular price is correct? No idea, but there are middle ground other than "GIVING AWAY FOR FREE" and "OMGWTFBBQ"
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2010, 04:21:22 AM »
I remember when Gateway 2k said they were dropping AmigaOS and going Linux. That was the worst news. Then they decided to spring a grand total of $30,000 dollars to update the OS. Considering BE inc was in the red for 1 billion it was not much of an investment.

Anyway, I can't help but wonder how fast UAE would be on a 6 core rig. If 5 people use their X1000 money for a multicore UAE bounty thats over 10k. Seems like a better use of the money.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 20, 2010, 04:26:31 AM »
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What else does UAE need feature wise?