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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2010, 10:31:46 AM »
@Gulliver
Man you are allucinating, can't you see this guy asked about PPC OS4 (nothing else)? What does it have to do with anything you wrote? (and by the way i look at my Sam as an officially supported mobo, but I think of Amiga only as fully boxed Computers specifically tailored for the Amiga Operative System, such as the X1000).

P.S.
As for what the guy had to say it is basically an outraged brainfart.
Ips change owners, technology has evolved to GP-GPU and many Commodore engineers said AAA was pure cr*ap, too little too late, and about to be changed for off the shelf Accelerators, by the way the same suggestion was given by J.Miner himself in a famous 1992 interview.
There was a paper from commodore engineers describing a new architecture after AAA which is basically what the X1000 is.
Sour grapes that speaks because they no longer count zilch in a project development count less than zero in my book, no matter what position they occupied when the world was flat.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2010, 10:37:11 AM »
Another damn Thread destroyed by MorphOS try hard recruiters...

dudes, your war is over, you went in another direction... like I've said for many many years actual AmigaOS the real deal doesn't need any others... so be men about it be happy with your path and go to Pro MorphOS grounds where you can hang out and be merry

I can't for the life of me figure you guys out...

I know for a fact I'll be one of the first Admins who runs a pro Amiga Forum to ban this kind of shit... PERIOD and believe me I'll take great pleasure in dictating that...

@Gulliver, very nice try but what exactly do you really think an A4000 was eventually going to change into? btw, an imitation OS is not a legitimate version, it'll only ever be a copy... that is why they don't market it as such... who wants a copy?

You guys whether you're MorphOS or AROS or any other damn thing are as far removed from the original Amiga Spirit as I can even try and ponder... AmigaOS individuals who have stayed with the platform, there are some of us, are not unlike we always have been... We feel about our machine... you lot belong in the PC world where cpus are chips and an os is a means to an end... bloody well enjoy it and leave us dreamers (if you like) alone...

You float around in uncontrolled Amiga Forums just adding your 2 cents... Times are going to change and eventually you'll be excluded, thank Amiga for That!

Then we can get back to discussing our cpu and going to each others houses for dinner and playing soft music and sipping wine and recounting the days when. . . LOL, yes, there will be a special section for that kind of humor...

@Varthall

Very nice posts Varthall, as you can see though they do not want to see what they are doing is wrong, they just want to share there opinion and spread there word... do we ever talk like that about MorphOS?
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2010, 10:41:23 AM »
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Another damn Thread destroyed by MorphOS try hard recruiters

Destroyed? It seemed like a honest discussion to me. It seems to me as if some wouldn't want that to happen, and try their best to drag the discussion down the the gutter.

So how is OS4? OS4 does have it's merits and problems. The best measuring stick happens to be... MorphOS. I only see it as natural that such threads as this would include discussion about how OS4 compares to MorphOS.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2010, 10:48:06 AM »
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Destroyed? It seemed like honest discussion to me. It seems to me as if  some wouldn't want that to happen, and try their best to drag the  discussion down the the gutter.
Not actually, the guy only wants to know about OS4 (and he specified that) moreover if this comparison it's so dear to you why don't you start a new thread with that topic?
That's what Fairlanefastback (Mod) suggests at AW when this happens.
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2010, 10:58:40 AM »
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@Piru

Not actually, the guy only wants to know about OS4 (and he specified that) moreover if this comparison it's so dear to you why don't you start a new thread with that topic?

That would have been a good idea probably. Search finds such threads, too:
Comparative between AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.3 on Pegasos II

In fact the earlier thread about MorphOS (by runequest himself) expicitly asked for such comparison against OS4:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=563660

So why not comparison against MorphOS when he asks about OS4? (My guess is that he knew it would trigger certain people who think that posting about MorphOS to any thread about OS4 is sacrilege and that they'd go bonkers, dragging the thread to the gutter. Oh, wasn't that exactly what happened here?)

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That's what Fairlanefastback (Mod) suggests at AW when this happens.

Sure, except that this isn't aw.net.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2010, 11:01:24 AM »
I find it a bit sad (and funny tbh) that today we still have this schism, really.

How is OS4? It's like OS3.x only a lot faster and with improved features.
How is MorphOS? It's like OS3.x only a lot faster and with improved features.
How is AROS? It's like OS3.x only a lot faster and with improved features.


Which one you use is entirely down to personal preferences at the end of the day. If you prefer PPC, stick to OS4/MorphOS. If you want to go x86, go for AROS.

AROS is free and open, OS4 and MorphOS are not. If you are all about open-source, there is only one choice. Otherwise, there is thus the cost of ownership to consider. MorphOS has targeted the second hand Mac market, so hardware can be obtained cheaply. In the end, OS4 will cost you the most (unless you get a 2nd hand system), hardware to run it is still on sale as new.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2010, 11:17:27 AM »
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2010, 11:19:43 AM »
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Another damn Thread destroyed by MorphOS try hard recruiters...





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Leave us alone, go back to morphzone
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2010, 11:20:04 AM »
@tone007

:roflmao:
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2010, 11:24:08 AM »
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Leave us alone, go back to morphzone
You're trying to prove my point really hard, aren't you? ;)
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2010, 11:26:23 AM »
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Destroyed? It seemed like a honest discussion to me. It seems to me as if some wouldn't want that to happen, and try their best to drag the discussion down the the gutter.

So how is OS4? OS4 does have it's merits and problems. The best measuring stick happens to be... MorphOS. I only see it as natural that such threads as this would include discussion about how OS4 compares to MorphOS.


I agree with Piru, comparing OS4 with MorphOS is a good way to get both OSes pros and cons. Having a civilized discussion abouth both OSes is good and shows even more about both systems.

I would not say anyone destroyed this thread, I got alot of good reading out of it and anyone interested in either AmigaOS 4.x and MorphOS got diffrent peoples views on them. I found it quite a good read about classic PPC Amiga and both OSes. So ill say thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2010, 11:36:58 AM »
Probably even better compare each against OS3.9, since that's what they are supposed to be upgrades from.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #86 on: June 17, 2010, 11:43:20 AM »
@Tone007  
:)

@Som99
Instead I think it's Lazy. look at my reply (the one to runequester I mean) I actually take the time to describe my OS4 experience to him, comparisons are lazy shortcuts.
Moreover to make unbiased comparisons of that kind you would need an impartial multi-platform developer (such as DiscreetFX for example) not OS4 and MOS users.
What the latter should do is give detailed descriptions with screenshots if possible in order to help the asking person without any Bias.

@Piru
Maybe he didn't like that thread and wanted to just hear about OS4, ok take out that maybe:

From runequester post:
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Thanks for all the information.
I have no interest in Morph at this time though, so can we please return  the conversation to OS 4 ?        
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #87 on: June 17, 2010, 11:47:01 AM »
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Maybe he didn't like that thread and wanted to just hear about OS4
Could be, but reading that thread doesn't give me that impression.

I welcome any conversation about OS4 in this thread, of course. This is after all the main topic.
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #88 on: June 17, 2010, 11:48:47 AM »
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Probably even better compare each against OS3.9, since that's what they are supposed to be upgrades from.


Well I do not fully agree since you cant run OS3.9 nativly on either AmigaOS 4.x and MorphOS "modern" hardware.
Then it would not realy be fair, since the original poster dident ask about Classic Amigas with PPC.
But yes some reflections with OS3.9 would be nice to see.
 

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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #89 from previous page: June 17, 2010, 11:50:03 AM »
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You guys whether you're MorphOS or AROS or any other damn thing are as far removed from the original Amiga Spirit as I can even try and ponder... AmigaOS individuals who have stayed with the platform, there are some of us, are not unlike we always have been... We feel about our machine... you lot belong in the PC world where cpus are chips and an os is a means to an end... bloody well enjoy it and leave us dreamers (if you like) alone...

That's just narrowminded, I don't mind OS4 MOS many AROS users feel the same.
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