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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Pro Camcorder
« on: June 02, 2010, 05:51:41 AM »
I want to save to buy a pro camcorder. Does anyone have a recommendations?

I am looking at the 1000.00 to 2000.00 US dollar range and the 2000.00 to 4000.00 us dollar range.
Thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Apro+camcorder%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A502394%2Cn%3A172421%2Cn%3A196577011&bbn=172421&keywords=pro+camcorder&ie=UTF8&qid=1275453135&rnid=502394
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 08:56:03 AM by trekiej »
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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 06:48:46 AM »
I'd wholeheartedly recommend the Canon EOS 5D Mark II. Even though video is a secondary feature of the camera, it's got a beautiful, full sized sensor so you can have your pick of a million lenses which you can use any way you like. Light sensitivity and detail exceed even the higher end Sony and Panasonic cameras. Check it out.
 

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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 07:02:03 AM »
It reminds me of the commercial that is made by the Olympic camera.
I think it is a PEN.
I think that is right.

 Canon EOS 5D Mark II
That is a nice camera.
I will think of those types when I go to purchase.
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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 12:20:42 PM »
Canon EOS 5D Mark II is one of the best - try Youtube and you will see how it works :)

Btw, I bought Sony HDR-XR105 [for ~$889] - works very very well. It suits everything I want.

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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 12:25:11 PM »
I would suggest a Canon 550D and then spend the money you saved (from not buying a 5D) on lenses :)

-Edit- if money is no object, then go for the 5D... I think they even used that to film an entire episode of House :-o
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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 12:47:22 PM »
I would suggest to buy as much camera as your budget allows.  The Canon LX2 is very nice or if you want HD then go for the XL H1 both can accept SLR lenes! and can do 24fps(more like film).  To me Canon has the most natural output with looking like
plastic or oversharpened which I find with the Sony's.  Plus the Canon video cameras tend to have a button for everything on camera vs..diving deep into sum menu&sub-menu system.  

The DSLR might seem like a good option but.. your going to need a ton of accessories to make that in to a very usable video camera option.  I can provide links for you..but it
just seems like an awful lot of gack, when you can get a pro video camera pull it out
the box and start using it.

my2cents..

Pm me if you want those links on how to make your DSLR perform like a pro-video camera.

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Quote from: trekiej;562517
I want to save to buy a pro camcorder. Does anyone have a recommendations?

I am looking at the 1000.00 to 2000.00 US dollar range and the 2000.00 to 4000.00 us dollar range.
Thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Apro+camcorder%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A502394%2Cn%3A172421%2Cn%3A196577011&bbn=172421&keywords=pro+camcorder&ie=UTF8&qid=1275453135&rnid=502394
 

Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 11:33:33 PM »
Thanks everyone, my old boss wants me to do some work for him. I hope to save the money up from him and help my brother out too.
I have too many hobbies. lol
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I like the interchange-able lenses. I guess the 3 CCD vs. CMOS debate is still going on today. I hear that CMOS is catching up.
I am looking to use these as a way to guage a camcorder.
1.Light Level
2.Color Range.
3.Speed Range of Objects / CCD/CMOS Reaction Time. See Also Number 11
4. Storage Media
5. Ease of Use.
6. Weight and Size.
7. Lens System.
8. Manual/Auto Focus
9. White Balance
10. Manual/ Auto Aperture
11. Shutter Speed.
12. CODEC   I Believe a CODEC Can Make or Break a Camcorder.  See Also MOD and TOD File Format.
12B. Does It Have a Raw File Input. Camcorder?
13. HDRI  I Do Not Know If This Applies to Camcorders. (High Dynamic Range Imaging)
14. Accessories
edit
15. Frames Per Second
16. Format 16 by 9, 4 by 3
17 Zoom
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 08:18:45 PM by trekiej »
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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 11:58:22 PM »
Please, look at the 240Z in my photo album.
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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 02:52:06 AM »
Quote from: trekiej;562517
I want to save to buy a pro camcorder. Does anyone have a recommendations?

I am looking at the 1000.00 to 2000.00 US dollar range and the 2000.00 to 4000.00 us dollar range.
Thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Apro+camcorder%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A502394%2Cn%3A172421%2Cn%3A196577011&bbn=172421&keywords=pro+camcorder&ie=UTF8&qid=1275453135&rnid=502394


We picked up a Sony FX1 in 2005 and are still very happy with it. It is a high-def HDV professional camcorder. You should be able to find one in your price range or even cheaper. Other models in the range have come out since then and are also nice, like the FX 7 for example.
 

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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 04:59:45 AM »
I recently did a PO for the Following:
2 Panasonic HVX200B (the HD one that uses  P2 Flash MEDIA) $3400

and the SDHC card equivalent

This P2 camera is used a lot by MTV and for live swithces folks bow in respect when you walk in with one.

For El Cheapos... I have 3 Canon HV30's that are file when you're in a controlled studio lit evnironment with a live stream.

The Panasonic P2 camera is a heavy hitter...
 

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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 12:35:44 PM »
Being able to change the glass(lens) is the best option.  With the Canon XL series the options are practically limitless with the amount of lens choices.  Your footage is only
as good a the lens that captures it.  I would go for the 3CCD over Cmos.  
Oh and 28 Days Later used the Canon XL2 just to give you an idea on the cinematography that can be achieved.

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Quote from: trekiej;562612
Thanks everyone, my old boss wants me to do some work for him. I hope to save the money up from him and help my brother out too.
I have too many hobbies. lol
*******************
I like the interchange-able lenses. I guess the 3 CCD vs. CMOS debate is still going on today. I hear that CMOS is catching up.
I am looking to use these as a way to guage a camcorder.
1.Light Level
2.Color Range.
3.Speed Range of Objects / CCD/CMOS Reaction Time. See Also Number 11
4. Storage Media
5. Ease of Use.
6. Weight and Size.
7. Lens System.
8. Manual/Auto Focus
9. White Balance
10. Manual/ Auto Aperture
11. Shutter Speed.
12. CODEC   I Believe a CODEC Can Make or Break a Camcorder.  See Also MOD and TOD File Format.
12B. Does It Have a Raw File Input. Camcorder?
13. HDRI  I Do Not Know If This Applies to Camcorders. (High Dynamic Range Imaging)
14. Accessories
edit
15. Frames Per Second
16. Format 16 by 9, 4 by 3
 

Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 12:17:59 AM »
Cool, I did not know that.
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Offline Crom00

Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 12:25:19 AM »
xl2 is great. There is an HD equivalent but I think it's out of your range. XL2 has amazing 24p footage.
 

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Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 02:33:01 AM »
XL2 also does 24fps.  The HD version XL-H1.  Seriously check Ebay for prices on new and gently used machines.  Another option is, you can buy just the body and then buy a Canon
dslr lens.. as well as you can get a Sigma slr lens in a Canon mount!.. At least you have options with the XL series of the Canon camcorders.

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xl2 is great. There is an HD equivalent but I think it's out of your range. XL2 has amazing 24p footage.
 

Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Pro Camcorder
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 05:21:43 AM »
Looking at canon usa, the prices are high.
OEM sites are usually high anyway.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=172
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