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Offline roomeo

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2010, 12:12:56 PM »
This is a picture of my A4000 running NetBSD 5.0.2
Booted for first time.. So i have not configured network yet..
 
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3242
 
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Offline johnklos

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2010, 06:34:32 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;561569
Okay so I said not enough drivers for hardware. These are the ones that seem to be missing. Please do correct me if I made some mistake on any of them:

CPU (the PPC part):
-BlizzardPPC
-CyberstormPPC


These are working, for the most part, and the amigappc port is actively being improved.

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IDE controller (all channels + full features):
-Idefix Express
-FastATA 1200
-FastATA 4000
-Eide99

I don't know which are which, but fixes based on the current IDE ports should work fine, and/or require an option in the kernel configuration file.


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SCSI:
-BlizzardPPC 603+ (is it unsupported?)


This looks like it'd be straightforward to support since we already support the chip. I suppose we just never had anyone to test it. I assume you have one of these - would you be willing to test it for us?

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Video Controllers:
-BlizzardVision
-CyberVisionPPC
-All pci based videocards


PCI isn't supported yet, as I mentioned earlier, but it'd certainly be nice. The CyberVisionPPC and BlizzardVision are supported, but probably need some testing.

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Audio:
-Delfina


No idea on this one. If you have one, we can probably get some technical info on it and see about adapting a current driver to it.

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Ethernet controllers:
-All PCI based ethernet cards


Again, PCI would be nice, but we'd need to get a Mediator or two to developers.

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IO:
-Subway
-Deneb


Same as above - USB wouldn't be too hard because so many USB chips are already supported in NetBSD, but we'd have to get hardware to developers.

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BUSBOARD:
-All mediator models
-All G-Rexx models
-All Prometheus models


Same as above.

How much of this hardware do you have, and how much testing would you be willing to do?

John
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2010, 07:43:26 PM »
I dont have any problem to test things out. Well maybe not enough time home to do it, but I can surely help, and have the following setup:

Blizzard PPC 603+
Mediator SX
Eide99

Mediator PCI cards:
Voodoo 3 3000
Realtek 8139
Soundblaster CT4750
Winfast TV 2000 (based on Conexant/Brooktree BT878)
 

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Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 07:47:11 PM »
Quote from: roomeo;561592
This is a picture of my A4000 running NetBSD 5.0.2
Booted for first time.. So i have not configured network yet..
 
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3242
 
Running on an A4000/040.33mhz/PicassoII/Ariadne/(Delfina Lite)


This looks like fun.

Maybe one day, when I have lots and lots of free time...
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Offline strim

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2011, 06:21:23 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;561569

SCSI:
-BlizzardPPC 603+ (is it unsupported?)


NetBSD has just got support for BlizzardPPC 603e+ SCSI host. It will be included in upcoming 6.0 release :) .
 

Offline Rodomoc

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 08:41:45 PM »
This NetBSD is interesting for me.
 
I think I have a machine that will run it. A3000 w/ A3640 (68040-25), GVP Spectrum Video, XSurf Ethernet. I am limited to the original 2/16MB Ram however. I am assuming that my FastATA card is not supported which means I will have to revert back to onboard SCSI. This is fine from a hard drive standpoint because A3000 native SCSI works real good in my opinion. Getting a CD running off this will be a challenge for me. I wonder if the SCSI CD drives sitting in my older powermac 7200-7600's would work?
 
Anway, I am interested in this for the sole reason that the Amiga version of NetBSD is up to date and fundamentally on par with other hardware ports. I have attempted Debian Linux on this machine and couldn't make it go. Maybe NetBSD will be a better experience.
 
Has anyone tried the Amiga specific binaries I saw in NetBSD FTP site? It looked like there were a few useful things in there. I am thinking that this should run well from a command line. I am not sure from X11 standpoint. Has anyone been able to run this? and what are your impressions?
 

Offline strim

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 09:41:27 PM »
Quote from: Rodomoc;607329
This NetBSD is interesting for me.
 I think I have a machine that will run it. A3000 w/ A3640 (68040-25), GVP Spectrum Video, XSurf Ethernet. I am limited to the original 2/16MB Ram however.

A3000, A3640, GVP Spectrum, XSurf are all supported. However, 16MB of fast RAM is way too small amount to run NetBSD 5. You'll be able to boot the system, but nothing more. Memory will be exhausted very quickly. In reality you need 32MB to do anything useful. ZorRAM memory expanion from AmigaKit is supported, might be a nice choice if you don't want to invest in turbo card.
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I am assuming that my FastATA card is not supported which means I will have to revert back to onboard SCSI.

Unfortunately, FastATA is not supported yet. I have a half finished driver, which does not work yet :(.
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I wonder if the SCSI CD drives sitting in my older powermac 7200-7600's would work?

Yes, it should just work.
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Anway, I am interested in this for the sole reason that the Amiga version of NetBSD is up to date and fundamentally on par with other hardware ports. I have attempted Debian Linux on this machine and couldn't make it go. Maybe NetBSD will be a better experience.

Go ahead, try it! In case of any problems, do not hesitate to post to port-amiga mailing list.
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Has anyone tried the Amiga specific binaries I saw in NetBSD FTP site? It looked like there were a few useful things in there. I am thinking that this should run well from a command line. I am not sure from X11 standpoint. Has anyone been able to run this? and what are your impressions?

Few days ago I installed NetBSD 5.1 on A600 + ACA630 using binaries on NetBSD FTP site, and these work without problems :). Though, I didn't test X11.
 

Offline Cammy

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 12:13:12 AM »
I haven't tried anything with it myself yet, but there's an interesting thread about NetBSD on the Amiga over on AmiBay at the moment - http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=12636
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Offline beakster2

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 03:05:57 AM »
Definitely worth doing just for the hell of it.  I ran it back in the day on my A1200 with 030/16meg to teach myself UNIX.

These days though it doesn't make much sense to run it on an Amiga (other than just for fun) when you could find an old PC in a skip which would run it faster.  What it does show though, is just how great AmigaOS is at being a practical WIMP OS on a machine with such limited resources.
 

Offline Rodomoc

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 06:10:45 PM »
strim - thanks for the post. I was actually thinking of getting a Zoram board for this machine of mine anyway. I wonder if the NetBSD would pick up on the Zoram?
 
This is sort of a pure fun thing for me and to get familiar with Unix. I also want to learn how the NetBSD kernel gets along with the Amiga hardware. This is intriguing to me in a variety of ways, especially when staying with Amiga's native hardware features.
 

Offline strim

Re: NETbsd on Amiga
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2011, 07:06:50 PM »
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I wonder if the NetBSD would pick up on the Zoram?


ZorRAM should just work with NetBSD/amiga, just as any other Z3 RAM expansion.