Is there an E-UAE tutorial for dummies?

[TheBilgeRat]

Sorry if this has been beaten ad-nauseum but I am mainly trying to "take the next step" with my emulator and run a proper workbench session off of a virtual hard drive.

My main questions are:

Can I write to my computer's floppy from E-UAE without a catweasel (in theory to make disks for my soon to be arriving A2000)?
How does one "install" WB3.1/1.3/etc to a virtual HD?
How does one move files from the host to the virtual desktop? (lha, picasso96, etc)?
Can I point my virtual workbench at a physical CDROm installed on my machine?

I apologise if this is yet another newb posting-perhaps there is a good FAQ/tutorial somewhere?  I tried this:

http://www.pcguru.plus.com/guides.html

and this:

http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

But still just get weird screen resolutions and general goofiness no matter what I fiddle with in the .uaerc file.  I am using linux so no winuae for me unless I want to fiddle with wine or setting up another virtual box (winxP).

Any help, advice, or general ribbing is welcome!

[TheBilgeRat]

well, after laying with Win_UAE tonight E-UAE and Win-UAE are two ENTIRELY different beasts.  THink I'll have to get it working in wine or emulate an emulation.

[Karlos]

I use E-UAE just fine (on linux). What you have to remember is that not all of the options are available via the GUI, so you may need to tweak your ~/,uaerc file directly.

I'm running OS3.9 from a directory without any major problems. Here's a copy of my .uaerc

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config_description=UAE default configuration
config_hardware=false
config_host=false
config_version=0.8.29
unix.rom_path=~/
unix.floppy_path=~/
unix.hardfile_path=~/
unix.savestate_path=~/
unix.cpu_idle=15
x86.use_tsc=yes
x11.low_bandwidth=false
x11.use_mitshm=true
x11.map_raw_keys=true
use_gui=yes
use_debugger=false
kickstart_rom_file=$(FILE_PATH)/uae/kick/kick.A1200.40.68
kickstart_ext_rom_file=
kickstart_key_file=
flash_file=
cart_file=
kickshifter=false
floppy0=
floppy0type=0
floppy1=
floppy1type=0
floppy2=
floppy2type=-1
floppy3=
floppy3type=-1
nr_floppies=2
floppy_speed=100
parallel_on_demand=false
serial_on_demand=false
serial_hardware_ctsrts=true
serial_direct=false
scsi=false
scsi_device=
sound_output=normal
sound_bits=16
sound_channels=stereo
sound_stereo_separation=7
sound_stereo_mixing_delay=0
sound_frequency=44100
sound_interpol=none
sound_adjust=0
sound_volume=0
sound_latency=100
comp_trustbyte=direct
comp_trustword=direct
comp_trustlong=direct
comp_trustnaddr=direct
comp_nf=true
comp_constjump=true
comp_oldsegv=false
comp_flushmode=soft
compforcesettings=true
compfpu=true
cachesize=8192
joyport0=mouse
joyport1=kbd1
bsdsocket_emu=true
synchronize_clock=no
maprom=0x0
gfx_framerate=1
gfx_width=720
gfx_height=568
gfx_width_windowed=720
gfx_height_windowed=568
gfx_width_fullscreen=800
gfx_height_fullscreen=600
gfx_refreshrate=0
gfx_vsync=false
gfx_lores=false
gfx_linemode=double
gfx_correct_aspect=false
gfx_fullscreen_amiga=false
gfx_fullscreen_picasso=false
gfx_center_horizontal=none
gfx_center_vertical=none
gfx_colour_mode=8bit
immediate_blits=true
ntsc=false
hide_cursor=true
show_leds=false
keyboard_leds=numlock:none,capslock:none,scrolllock:none
chipset=aga
collision_level=playfields
fastmem_size=0
a3000mem_size=0
z3mem_size=128
bogomem_size=0
gfxcard_size=16
chipmem_size=4
cpu_speed=max
cpu_type=68040
cpu_compatible=false
cpu_cycle_exact=false
blitter_cycle_exact=false
log_illegal_mem=false
catweasel_io=0x0
kbd_lang=us
state_replay=no
state_replay_rate=250
state_replay_buffer=20971520
filesystem2=rw,DH0:OS3.9:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/os39drive,0
filesystem=rw,OS3.9:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/os39drive
filesystem2=rw,DH2:Developer:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/developerdrive,0
filesystem=rw,Developer:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/developerdrive
filesystem2=rw,DH1:Stuff:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/stuff,0
filesystem=rw,Stuff:$(FILE_PATH)/uae/harddisk/stuff
input.config=0
input.joymouse_speed_analog=20
input.joymouse_speed_digital=10
input.joymouse_deadzone=33
input.joystick_deadzone=33
input.mouse_speed=100
input.autofire=10
input.1.mouse.0.disabled=0
input.1.mouse.0.axis.0=MOUSE1_HORIZ.0
input.1.mouse.0.axis.1=MOUSE1_VERT.0
input.1.mouse.0.axis.2=MOUSE1_WHEEL.0
input.1.mouse.0.button.0=JOY1_FIRE_BUTTON.0
input.1.mouse.0.button.1=JOY1_2ND_BUTTON.0
input.1.mouse.0.button.2=JOY1_3RD_BUTTON.0
input.2.mouse.0.disabled=0
input.2.mouse.0.axis.0=MOUSE1_HORIZ.0
input.2.mouse.0.axis.1=MOUSE1_VERT.0
input.2.mouse.0.axis.2=MOUSE1_WHEEL.0
input.2.mouse.0.button.0=JOY1_FIRE_BUTTON.0
input.2.mouse.0.button.1=JOY1_2ND_BUTTON.0
input.2.mouse.0.button.2=JOY1_3RD_BUTTON.0
input.3.mouse.0.disabled=0
input.3.mouse.0.axis.0=MOUSE1_HORIZ.0
input.3.mouse.0.axis.1=MOUSE1_VERT.0
input.3.mouse.0.axis.2=MOUSE1_WHEEL.0
input.3.mouse.0.button.0=JOY1_FIRE_BUTTON.0
input.3.mouse.0.button.1=JOY1_2ND_BUTTON.0
input.3.mouse.0.button.2=JOY1_3RD_BUTTON.0
input.4.mouse.0.disabled=0
input.4.mouse.0.axis.0=MOUSE1_HORIZ.0
input.4.mouse.0.axis.1=MOUSE1_VERT.0
input.4.mouse.0.axis.2=MOUSE1_WHEEL.0
input.4.mouse.0.button.0=JOY1_FIRE_BUTTON.0
input.4.mouse.0.button.1=JOY1_2ND_BUTTON.0
input.4.mouse.0.button.2=JOY1_3RD_BUTTON.0

In order to make sure the JIT is using direct mode, it is also important to raise the maximum shared memory segment size (see /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax). By default, it is set to 32MB or something on my distro. I raised it to 256MB (268435456)

[Karlos]

Incidentally, you can run WinUAE in Wine, which I've also tried. There were some issues however. For example, hitting F12 to bring up the control seemed to "stick" such that it was impossible to close the window again without the keypress being repeated and thus opening it again. I found the safe way to do this was to use the WinUAE "systray" icon (that appeared in my gnome panel). There were various other issues too.

My distro is now quite old, so it is possible these problems don't apply any more.

[Karlos]

As for getting the OS installed, I used tar to archive up a minimum working OS3.9 install on my A1200 and transferred it over the network to the linux box, then untared it there. After that, it was all down to basic tweaking.

[walter]

Sorry if this has been beaten ad-nauseum...

No it hasn't (IMHO).

...perhaps there is a good FAQ/tutorial somewhere?  ...

http://www.pcguru.plus.com/guides.html
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html

I run E-UAE (32-bit (note the need for 32-bit libraries on a 64 bit machine),
with JIT) on Ubuntu (from 8.04 to 10.04 currently).  It works fairly well.
I often have it running for several days at a time.  I think I'm still using
http://www.rcdrummond.net/uae/test/20080815/
I'm not sure if there are easy links to that.

Let me scatter a few (pretty darn random) links:
http://www.weasels.demon.nl/page08linux.html
I think his other pages are helpful too.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EUAEAmigaEmulator
Ubuntu focus, obviously; it is occasionally added to.

http://www.seebs.net/log/articles/391/amiga-rdb-disk-partition-unpacking-utility
Don't see many references to this and I think it helped me out a
couple of years ago when I migrated from my beloved Amithlon.

http://giuliogiuseppecarlo.interfree.it/uae/en/index.html

The English Amiga Board  has good discussion of, and tutorials on,
Amiga emulators; more WinUAE than *nix versions.  Check the "other"
forum (http://eab.abime.net/forumdisplay.php?f=54)
GnoStiC's (Mustufa Tufan) PUAE looks very interesting.  I need to
find time to try it.

Hope this helps a little bit.

[TheBilgeRat]

Thank you- it does!  I am running Ubuntu (well, xubuntu) 32bit so the libs are ok.  I've got games pretty easily figured out on it- I'm just ready to do more.  And winuae makes it lok so easy comparatively

[walter]

Karlos said:

In order to make sure the JIT is using direct mode, it is also important to raise the maximum shared memory segment size (see /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax). By default, it is set to 32MB or something on my distro. I raised it to 256MB (268435456)

For some reason (arithmetic ineptitude) I have it at 272MB.  If your machine is primarily an EUAE box you could put a line like this in /etc/sysctl.conf:

kernel.shmmax=

Also, Karlos, thanks for the wine/WinUAE comments.  I got it booting, but didn't stick with it long enough to get my whole installation working.  Ah, time...

[Karlos]

Karlos said:


For some reason (arithmetic ineptitude) I have it at 272MB.  If your machine is primarily an EUAE box you could put a line like this in /etc/sysctl.conf:

kernel.shmmax=

I did anyway, as I got sick of forgetting to echo to /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax

Since it only defines the allowed maximum shared memory segment size, it ought to be perfectly safe to do so. Maybe your 272 is for 256MB Z3 + 16MB RTG? I am only using 128MB Z3 in my config, I just rounded shmmax up to the largest power of 2 that was bigger than all of the memory combined in my emulation. I doubt it's using a segment larger than their combined size in any event.

Also, Karlos, thanks for the wine/WinUAE comments.  I got it booting, but didn't stick with it long enough to get my whole installation working.  Ah, time...

I think I simply copied the installed WinUAE directory from one of my NFTS partitions to Wine's Program Files directory and started from there.

[TheBilgeRat]

I'm compiling E-UAE from source.  I get a feeling the pre-packaged deb's are acting funny on my compy.  I shall test and post.

[Karlos]

I'm compiling E-UAE from source.  I get a feeling the pre-packaged deb's are acting funny on my compy.  I shall test and post.

The version I am running was compiled from source, but that was back when Ubuntu 8.04 was bleeding edge :lol:

I had problems with a 64-bit native target, so in the end I built a 32-bit one. That required installing a few 32-bit libraries (mostly for X11 stuff) in order to get working on my 64-bit distro.

[TheBilgeRat]

The version I am running was compiled from source, but that was back when Ubuntu 8.04 was bleeding edge :lol:
 
I had problems with a 64-bit native target, so in the end I built a 32-bit one. That required installing a few 32-bit libraries (mostly for X11 stuff) in order to get working on my 64-bit distro.

 
Things do seem to be working better after compilation, although I'm not postive how MUCH better.  E-UAE seems to release hold of ALSA cleaner at any rate.

[Karlos]

One bug I still have is that setting higher RTG resolutions (higher than 1280x960 on this machine) causes the the app to segfault. AHI doesn't work either. Although I'm not sure if that's simply because it isn't supported in E-UAE yet.

I really ought to look at the code

[TheBilgeRat]

One bug I still have is that setting higher RTG resolutions (higher than 1280x960 on this machine) causes the the app to segfault. AHI doesn't work either. Although I'm not sure if that's simply because it isn't supported in E-UAE yet.

I really ought to look at the code

well, I watched gcc complain a lot about crummy syntax when it was compiling :lol: