Brand New Sam460ex

[recidivist]

Maybe they feel it will be easier porting OS 4.x if every 460ex user has a known base quantity as regards graphics and sound ?

Isn't having standardized graphics and sound true to the original Amiga?

 I'm glad to see ACube still trying to kep the dream alive ;I just wish econimcs were more favorable.Amigans must admit this is much more capable than an A500 which sold for $700-$800 new when introduced.

[cv643d]

The place to go if you want to read misinformation by trolls.. I have to admit that there is a few interesting threads there though, but most of the shit there is just trolling..

Yes, I agree with you, partly, but for someone like myself who was away between 2000 and 2004 (the GW2000 fiasco made me sell of every Amiga I had and delete my folder of 50+ bookmarked Amiga-sites) it is quite interesting to find out where all this blue/red war came from for example and to get a different opinion of the state of Amiga today.

Moo bunny is Amiga reality in a cold harsh way, IMHO. ok, back to track again ;-)

[djrikki]

Ok I know you was being sarcastic Persia, but at least it can multi-task!

There is a lot of people complaining the iPad can't multi-task, i.e you can't play music and read a book on it.  Will be interesting to see if Apple do take this criticism on-board and fix it.

I did consider buying an iPad just for novelty value, but I decided am gonna show my support and buy an AmigaOne X1000 instead - if the price is realistic.

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[cv643d]

Maybe they feel it will be easier porting OS 4.x if every 460ex user has a known base quantity as regards graphics and sound ?

Isn't having standardized graphics and sound true to the original Amiga?

 I'm glad to see ACube still trying to kep the dream alive ;I just wish econimcs were more favorable.Amigans must admit this is much more capable than an A500 which sold for $700-$800 new when introduced.

Yeah, but dont forget that back then that A500 had incredible performance for less than half the price of other similar computers of those times.

Proof in pudding is what you do with the system, it is one thing to cash down 800 big ones on a nische computer in 2010, it is another to have it on your desk every day and find out you never use it, for myself, I sold my NG Amiga because ultimately it was just a toy, although a very cool toy and a nice experience to for a little while play in the alternative reality where if it was 1998 and AmigaOS was ported to PPC, but it is not 1998, it is f"n 2010

So I advice everytone to get one if you feel the need to, try it out, post your opinion, make yourself heard, the market is relatively stable so you can probably get back 60-80% what you invested if you sell it on.

[djrikki]

Yeah, but dont forget that back then that A500 had incredible performance for less than half the price of other similar computers of those times.

Proof in pudding is what you do with the system, it is one thing to cash down 800 big ones on a nische computer in 2010, it is another to have it on your desk every day and find out you never use it, for myself, I sold my NG Amiga because ultimately it was just a toy, although a very cool toy and a nice experience to for a little while play in the alternative reality where if it was 1998 and AmigaOS was ported to PPC, but it is not 1998, it is f"n 2010

So I advice everytone to get one if you feel the need to, try it out, post your opinion, make yourself heard, the market is relatively stable so you can probably get back 60-80% what you invested if you sell it on.

Comes to that old chestnut again don't it... Amiga will need software developers en-mass to start making ports or it will forever remain a toy.

The average user wants to be able watch YouTube videos, send email, log on facebook and buy stuff on E-Bay.  If the current owners can 'BUNDLE' this all into the OS Distribution (even if its freeware software Gnash etc...), give us a pretty desktop with a red/white Bouncy Ball in the corner and blazed across the screen on logging, a Dock bar-like interface then Amiga would stand a far better chance of succeeding.
New users should not be expected to downloading thousands of libraries that do something simple as idk display a PNG.

[persia]

@Thomas

Yep, I can testify that Amigaworld.net is no long run by Stalinists.  I've expressed my dissatisfaction at the price and specs of both the SAM and A-Eon boards more often than I care to think and no bans, no warning, no complaints, nothing.

That doesn't mean you won't encounter anger from some of the more enthusiastic crowd there, but that's to be expected.  I like Amigaworld.net ALMOST as much as here.

[cv643d]

Yeah..

But the point I was trying to make (and I failed ) was that if the price is low enough I can justify have a toy on my desk, but then I also need to feed my toy with something, else it lacks purpose, I need to feed it software, there comes os4depot in light.

It is not the same for classic for me, I do not need new software for my classics to enjoy them since I want to run the software I am fond of from back when classic was defacto standard in the Amiga world on them.

[redrumloa]

they didnt do it for the sam440 either, and look how that turned out

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True. But now Hyperion has an in-house hardware project that this seems to compete directly with. Yeah, I know A-Eon is set up as a separate company but we can see who is behind it. While the dots have not been officially connected, it would seem the X1000 is the MAP Hyperion has hinted at.

[redrumloa]

I doubt we have to worry about license now that amiga inc is out of the picture. I am more curious about how long it will take to port it to this board.

It seems Hyperion has the right to do what they want with OS4 now, but will they?

I'm just speculating out loud here.

[NovaCoder]

True. But now Hyperion has an in-house hardware project that this seems to compete directly with. Yeah, I know A-Eon is set up as a separate company but we can see who is behind it. While the dots have not been officially connected, it would seem the X1000 is the MAP Hyperion has hinted at.

There's no question about the X1000 being tied to Hyperion, they even marketed the thing

ACube must have been working on this new board for awhile, probably started right after the Flex.  The interesting thing is that they still choose to release it.  The must have some confidence in selling them otherwise why would they bother.  It's all very interesting (the great Amiga soap opera continues).  They must also be confident that Hyperion will devote the required resources to get OS4.1 up and running on it quickly.

I wonder if they are also going to 'Flex' this thing?  You know 1.4ghz (460GTx), 4GB ram, 2 x SATA.....mmmm, not quite so 'low end' now if you know what I mean

I can't wait to see what happens over the next 6 months

[trekiej]

It sounds like the X1000 will be able to live with the Sam460ex because it has more to offer in the long run.
I doubt Sam460ex will kill an X1000.

[cha05e90]

...but anyway, is it not in the best interest of 4.1 that it would be released for Mac Mini PPC to? Is the main reason you need to pay ~600 euro for the mobo (or 1000+ euro for x-computer) alone just so that Amiga dealers can force to sell 4.1 together with the mobo?

What you describe is a so called "business model" - and it is different from the MorphOS team. I suppose they try to build a new base of hardware AND software combination with more than one system deliverer. In this context the HW company makes some money, the software company makes some money, the dealers make some money - especially if they build systems for customers (like my sam440ep was pre-assembled by my dealer).
Of course the software part in this model could make more money if they port the OS to Macintoshs. But up to now Hyperion still exists and ACube still exists and AmigaKit and Vesalia as well - so it seems to work.

[takemehomegrandma]

Please refresh my memory then? What exactly have hyperion lied about?

Careful now, I don't think you really want to go there...

[takemehomegrandma]

Maybe they feel it will be easier porting OS 4.x if every 460ex user has a known base quantity as regards graphics and sound ?

Not the slightest.

Isn't having standardized graphics and sound true to the original Amiga?

How is slapping on a bog standard controller chip "true to the original Amiga"? They could at least have used something suitable for desktops. If the max resolution is 1280x1024 and it has no 3D, then isn't it just dead weight that adds complexity and cost to the board? Everyone will use a "real" GFX card anyway...

[dammy]

Interesting... Maybe I am reading too much into this, but no mention of OS4 license and availability for this board?

They will probably wait until AROS is released for it, like they did with the 440. ;-)

[cha05e90]

Careful now, I don't think you really want to go there...

Yes master, we will not dare to ask for mystical, secret knowledge of the book "what-happend-in-the-past-and-we-are-the-beholder-of-the-one-and-only-truth-really-trust-me". Blabla.