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Offline apj

NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« on: March 29, 2010, 12:05:21 PM »
NetSurf is an open source CSS capable web browser for RISCOS and other platforms. http://netsurf-browser.org/

 Changes:

   + added middle mouse button for scrolling,
        + improvement - now installer makes backup of currently installed
          ixemul libraries,
        + new - use own images for buttons (thanks for amirul),
   + fixed bug with links which wanted to open new window.
     target_blank in options file need to be changed from 1 to 0
     for this to work,
   + added new button to download current page or whole website,
   + updated ffplay to SVN-r22669 (port by Piotr Bandurski),
        + improvment - ability to browse while downloading,
        + updated libpng to 1.2.39,
        + updated libsdl to 1.2.14,
   + fixed - sometimes buttons stayed pushed,
   + fixed - browsing site with left/right works again.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2010, 03:12:37 PM by apj »
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 04:08:59 PM »
Quote from: __artur;550161
NetSurf for AmigaOS 3.x is a fork of an open source CSS capable web browser for RISCOS and other platforms. http://netsurf-browser.org/

And here is the link for the AOS 3.x version (AMINET): http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/NetSurf-m68k
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Offline Vulture

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 02:35:45 AM »
Thx to the creators! Albeit slow, it's an important bit of software for 3.x systems.
 

Offline bernd_afa

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 12:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Vulture;550315
Thx to the creators! Albeit slow, it's an important bit of software for 3.x systems.


but hope come it go faster soon.
netsurf team have add the diskcache for netsurf

http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org/2010-March/001826.html

But its a Version 2.5 and AOS 68k use 3.0 which have a diffrent plotterinterface.So there need also wait if netsurf devs add the cache to 3.0.

They do enhance 2.5 because nobody change the plotter interface currently so risc OS does not work well with 3.0.

netsurf SDL all in all is fast, it can show a big page full of antialiazed text with 831 lines (which are most more than 80 chars in length)and 74 kb in size in 5 sec on a classic.every line contain a HTML command.

normaly antialiased Text draw is slowest a browser do.  
the testfile i use is the ibrowse history.html file.

ibrowse can show the file 5* faster but ibrowse do no AA.

Real world pages are lots smaller, contain lots fewer text, and loading of a page is longer (even if load from RAM)there is elsewhere the slowdown and not in SDL.

maybe the new cache and less ram usage speed up netsurf more
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 12:19:53 PM by bernd_afa »
 

Offline walkero

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 01:28:32 PM »
Maybe a PPC (WarpOS/PowerUP) port of it could benefit from PPC speed. On my A1200 PPC the latest OWB under OS4 works much faster than the Netsurf on the 68K system.
Is it possible?
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 03:47:16 PM »
@Artur - many thanks for the latest update, alot of the issues I had appear to have been resolved. Alot of pepople have asked for a MUI version, what are your thoughts on this?

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Offline apj

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 04:53:55 PM »
I don't know anything about MUI.
As Bernd said new cache is being implemented right now.
I have newest svn compiled and it loads websites 3 times faster also ram usage is lowered, so it may be usable on real Amigas.

Offline Drummerboy

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 10:57:04 PM »
This version still requiring Gfx Card?
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Offline kolla

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 12:26:57 AM »
Quote from: Drummerboy;550449
This version still requiring Gfx Card?


Requires P96 it says in the readme.

On linux SDL has many output options, even aalib (ascii) and libcaca (ansi), I never grasped why SDL on amiga is limited to RTG only.
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Offline bernd_afa

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 09:42:30 AM »
>On linux SDL has many output options, even aalib (ascii) and libcaca (ansi), I never >grasped why SDL on amiga is limited to RTG only.

because its the only way to get a usefull speed.
We read often now netsurf is too slow on 68k.so what sense it have to make it even more slower by support AGA ?

the programmers of linux portable soft near all have a machine that is faster than 2 GHZ today, so its clear, they write not optimal code that it run good on 50 MHZ or 700 MHZ systems, because writing faster code cost more time.And as you can see developing Software cost lots time.and compiling cost also lots time.

also on Linux there are lots more developers here.
maybe somebody make a bounty so that SDL support AGA or aalib on AOS.when you want something that nobody want do for free, money makes it.
But i guess nobody want pay for SDL AGA.

I have no time for such funny things(even if there is a bounty) i want use netsurf, i am sure nobody use netsurf on AGA its more the oh it can work on my machine i buy before 15 year feeling.

and for that there is no time here.

@drummerboy.have you really no other computer as a AGA Amiga ?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2010, 09:48:02 AM by bernd_afa »
 

Offline apj

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 07:27:42 PM »
@Tumbleweed or anybody else with 'Power' miggy and RTG

Can you test this version on your Amiga?

http://sites.google.com/site/amigacorner/Home/NetSurf.7z?attredirects=0&d=1

Let me know what results do you get.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2010, 07:30:46 PM by apj »
 

Offline lovrenco

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 08:24:53 PM »
Netsurf will be best option for upcoming Natami...

Java and Flash support needed....
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »
Quote from: __artur;550578
@Tumbleweed or anybody else with 'Power' miggy and RTG

Can you test this version on your Amiga?

http://sites.google.com/site/amigacorner/Home/NetSurf.7z?attredirects=0&d=1

Let me know what results do you get.


Artur I downloaded and extracted the file but I can't get it to run. Where do i copy this version to? I've placed it in my original netsurf drawer but no luck it doesn't run.

When you say power miggy do you mean PPC? My A4000D only has a 060 and RTG card?

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Offline apj

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 09:07:12 AM »
My mistake, there where wrong paths set.

Fixed version download again from the same link.

No, I meant fast m68k Amiga like yours.

Offline walkero

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 04:56:48 PM »
@artur
I'm trying the test version right now. I have the idle and idlewos running, but I don't see any usage of the ppc when i see websites with this "Power" version. I'm doing something wrong?