FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card

[LoadWB]

Yes your right I ruined the entire amiga community, simply by pointing out you have everything you need to test the parts but for some reason you still choose not to.
 
I ruined the entire amiga community by simply asking you to take 2 minutes and test the parts before trying to make money off of what could br broken or otherwise nonworking parts.
 
Your right, I'm sorry people like me are  ruining the amiga community.
 
Steven

FFS, are you quite finished?  No, "you're" just being a whiny little girl about him not wanting to test a unit in which he has no interest, instead wanting to sell it to someone who does.  In case you are not aware, people do this kind of thing all the time in plenty of other markets beside the "Amiga" community, with plenty of happy results.  Good transactions under these conditions are the norm, not the exception.

Just because you got screwed on some eBay deal does not mean that every eBay seller is out to screw you.  Live by the rules you set for yourself and let others live theirs, or just get over yourself and stop trolling.  (Or was that the other complainer?  I cannot tell the difference as whiny girl voices sound the same to me.)

Lets agree to disagree on this one. Good luck with your sale...

Was it worth it?

[Akiko]

He seems to accept returns, so I assume the buyer can return for a refund if found to be damaged?

[rkauer]

The auction have a non-DOA guarantee. What do you think?

[stefcep2]

Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.

Its poor form and laziness IMO.  Compare this post here:

The list is about 1/3 complete, I will continue to add to it as I test and photograph items. Thanks for looking!!!

Description Condition Price Qty Avail
A501 Ram expansion Some Batt Damage but Working $10.00 2
ICD AdRAM 540 w/ 4MB Used $75.00 1
Final Writer 97 Complete with Box $12.50 1
Final Writer 97 Disks and Manual $8.00 1
Softwood EPSClips: Holidays, Animal1, Flowers Disks $5.00 1
Game: Wonderland Complete with Box $5.00 1
A2091 Used $15.00 1
Final Copy II Complete with Box $12.50 2
CD: Gold Fish CD $4.00 1
CD32: Insight Technology CD $4.00 1
Kickstart Switcher Used $8.00 1
KickBack Switcher Used with Manual $10.00 1
MediaVision External SCSI CDROM Used $7.50 2
CD32: Microcosm CD $5.00 1
A570 Complete with Box $65.00 1
Art Department Pro Complete with Box $5.00 1
Amigavision Complete with Box $5.00 1
DCTV Complete with Box $20.00 1
ImageFX Complete with Box $7.50 1
ImageMaster Complete with Box + 3VHS tutorials $10.00 1
Math Blaster Complete with Box $4.00 1
Game: Sinbad Complete with Box $5.00 1
Surf Squirrel, SCSI and serial Complete with Box $25.00 1
1MB 30pin SIMM Used $1.00 50
4MB 30pin SIMM New $6.00 8
4MB 30pin SIMM Used $4.00 12
GVP A500-HD+, 540mb Quantum + 8MB Fast RAM Used $100.00 1
256k x4 DIP DRAM, 70ns+ Used $0.50 32
256k x4 DIP DRAM, 60ns (works @ 50ns!!!) Used $0.75 16
175MB 2.5" Hard Drive Used $5.00 2
180MB 2.5" Hard Drive Used $5.00 6
2MB 72pin SIMM (A4000 chipram) Used $5.00 2
68882 PLCC 33mhz (tested good at 60mhz, will guarantee 50mhz) New $15.00 5
A1200 motherboard NTSC 1D1, Kick 3.1 Used $40.00 1
A1300 Genlock Used $10.00 1
A1680 Modem Complete with Box $5.00 1
A25000 2MB RAM Used $10.00 2
A520 New? $10.00 2
Action Replay Used with Manual $15.00 1
Amigen, very poor image with a2000/flickerfixer Issues??? $4.00 1
CD: BCI Net CD $4.00 1
Best Data 33.6k modem Used $4.00 1
CD32 Controller Used $5.00 1
CD32: The Chaos Engine Cd $5.00 1
CNET 56k modem Used $5.00 1
CD32: Insight Dinosaurs Used $4.00 1
External Floppy Used $10.00 1
CD: Fish & More CD $4.00 1
Gravis JoyPad Used $4.00 1
Misc Joysticks Used $3.00 5
Sega JoyPad Used $4.00 1
128k x8 70ns SRAM (used by CSA mega midget racer) New $3.50 4
SuperGen 2000s Used $15.00 1
Supra 8MB RAM (with 4MB populated) Used $15.00 1
USR 56k Modem Used $5.00 1
Video Backup System Used $10.00 1
Viper 1230 28mhz 030+882, 8MB Used $100.00 1
Video Toaster Used $20.00 1
Video Toaster 4000 Used $30.00 1
MTEC 1230LC 42mhz 030+882, 4MB Used $100.00 1

This seller is testing the stuff, before selling it, how long would that take with that list, of which he is 1/3 of the way through, compared to how long ONE item would take.  Compare the two approaches.

The OP talks about the Amiga Community in the past, so he's not a noob, he would have some knowledge about how to go about testing, or where to ask, but he chooses not to, or already knows its dead, but wants to sell it with no recourse for the buyer.  Well some "Community spirit"" that is!  

Anyway it IS a free market, he can offer it for sale however he wants, just as buyers are free to draw their own conclusions about what the selling terms mean.

[Damion]

Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.

+1

Looks like a good seller, perfect feedback, provided plenty of good pics and other information... What's the problem?

The way I see it, this is 25-year old gear, there will always be an element of risk. Even if it tested perfect in one A2000, there's a small chance it might not work in another... too many factors involved to provide guarantees. (Maybe your motherboard has blown caps, or your PSU is tired, etc etc)

[rkauer]

Oh, to test the MMR board it's just a matter of plug it in a 68000 socket, fire up the Amiga and in a CLI window type "showconfig" (needs WB2.x, of course).

 IIRC, there is no available tool to do so in 1.x Workbench without a Sysinfo disk.

[TjLaZer]

Am I missing something here?  The Accelerator has been tested and it works, as per the "Clearly inexperienced" OP.  He said he turned the A2000 on and it worked:

Like I said, both units were plugged into the Amiga 2000 when I got it. I turned on the computer and it booted. There was no screen asking if I wanted to use the accelerator or the stock 68000. It just booted up normal. I DO NOT have the driver/installer software so cannot test it out any further.

The 68030 CPU card does not need drivers.  The RAM might need a driver, if it is not already "autoconfig" capable.  The CPU automatically configs itself and takes over the 68000 and is a 68030 on every Amiga I have ever seen and used (I have have them all).  

Even a 68040/68060 turbo card will report the system as having a 68040 CPU with no driver or OS loaded!  (SysInfo 3.4x)

(If you run SysInfo on a CLI without loading WB/drivers it will report what CPU is currently installed and autoconfiged)

Maybe instead of whining about him not testing, etc. let him know he already did???!  LOL

[ElPolloDiabl]

I bought a bunch of PC parts from an online auction, it was a placed that got rid of companies decommisioned computers. The description on the website said condition "unknown".
When I got them delivered they had big stickers on them describing the faults in them or "not working."
I was not the only one ring them up and complain and luckily they were sorry and refunded my money.

[Boudicca]

Pisses me off big time when people do this.  I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"

I beg to differ,  I spent quite a few years as a flea-market trader and "As-is" is something that all ebay auctions should state, even new items as there is no come back no matter what the blurb tells you.

However I agree with "Untested" is something that I wish sellers would drop unless its a bulk purchase.

[chiark]

Showconfig will show you something, but it won't show you if the memory is working.  For that you need the CSA utility as the memory does not autoconfig.

This unit appears to have the SRAM and 4MB DRAM options, so you'd need to run csa-mmr SRAM DRAM 25.  (You can use the SRAM as ram, or as a local ROM shadow - use SROM option instead of SRAM )

(where 25 is the speed of the CPU).

You can also jumper the CSA-MMR to run in 68000 mode if the 68000 is installed on the unit.

So it isn't just "plug it in and see if it works".  You need to read the manual, check the jumpers, run the software...

The software is available on the net, as is the manual.  If anyone buys this and needs a hand, drop me a PM: I have two MMRs, both get lots of use, and both are great

[amiga92570]

I have several of these. They are a great little cards. I would bid at least $75.00 for it even if it doesn't work. If it's broke, I'll fix it. Thats what I like to say. I have seen these go for $300.00 dollars, so Maybe I would get a deal.

[clusteruk]

Looks like something that would be at home in my A1000.

Basically the usual scenario is, if it boots it is probably ok, if dead then the Amiga would probably complain bitterly.

Worth small gamble.

[curtis]

Am I missing something here?  The Accelerator has been tested and it works, as per the "Clearly inexperienced" OP.  He said he turned the A2000 on and it worked:



The 68030 CPU card does not need drivers.  The RAM might need a driver, if it is not already "autoconfig" capable.  The CPU automatically configs itself and takes over the 68000 and is a 68030 on every Amiga I have ever seen and used (I have have them all).  

Even a 68040/68060 turbo card will report the system as having a 68040 CPU with no driver or OS loaded!  (SysInfo 3.4x)

(If you run SysInfo on a CLI without loading WB/drivers it will report what CPU is currently installed and autoconfiged)

Maybe instead of whining about him not testing, etc. let him know he already did???!  LOL

When I first got the A2000, I plugged it in and turned it on.  Dual floppy system, so inserted 2.04 WB floppy in drive.  Unit booted normally.  No cpu selector screen.  I had an A2000 many years ago that would pop up asking which cpu I wanted to use.  Not this one.

It wasn't until I opened the machine up that I discovered the MMR board installed.  Amiga Hardware Database shows an installer disk so I presumed this needs to be installed for the '030 to be recognized.  If this is not the case, the unit could very well be dead.

I also discovered an Oktagon hard drive controller with 4Mb of RAM inside.  No drive!  Memory is recognized which is nice.  However, again, no drivers for the SCSI side of the world.  Since I'm replacing this with a Buddha card, does anyone want the Oktagon?  $20 and shipping and it's yours.  Memory works, hard drive controller portion is untested.

[tone007]

Mega Midget Racer win!

[save2600]

What I want to know is how those pins got so bent?  :ponder:  :lol:

@Curtis: thanks for offering and posting here. I'd love to have one of these someday for my A1000, but alas - too broke as usual. Good luck with the sale!

[mdv2000]

Just want to throw in my 2 cents worth... ALL OLD AMIGA HARDWARE is ai-is and you should assume issues and bid accordingly.  When I sold some of my Amiga Hardware on ebay - I showed pics it working - but gave no guarantee/AS-IS buyer must insure.  Old computer equipment - especially bulky Amiga hardware - most likely must ship US email to be affordable so you have to accept its a always at risk.  Decide how much you want to risk and bid accordingly.

If the seller doesn't want to test and show working - then just accept it may be broke and don't bid high.  Ebay is the ultimate free market - the demand sets the price. I'd love to get a MegaMidgetRacer for my trusty old A500 - but after a 68030-25 for my A2000, I just keep A500 for playing those pesky games that don't like acceleration.  

Also, kinda on but off topic too - as time goes by Amiga hardware will become rarer and more expensive as long as people care about it.  Just look at classic Atari consoles like the 7800.  They where great ebay items for a while - but since they don't work on modern Digitial TVs, the demand is going away and the one I sold with games for over $100 a few years back goes for like $25.

That is something else people need to think about - a lot of our vintage stuff will eventually not work - especially if you hook them to TV, etc cause new TV's don't support the old NTSC analog.  If you don't have a way to hook your Amiga to a monitor - you better be looking at a way to when that old analog tv dies.