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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #134 from previous page: March 23, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »
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On your running installation without a reinstall (Kubuntu)? I am surprised it worked at all.


No, simply "sudo apt-get install kde" (IIRC, and maybe a couple of others) and change the session upon graphical login.  No black magic involved.

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You missed the point aswell: Normally it isn't necessary.


Hey, I'm just telling my experience from the year 2010.  This shouldn't happen, and yet somehow it did.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2010, 03:05:11 PM »
OK, so to sum this post up:

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I started using Linux back in 1995, and kept that as my main OS until 2004 when I switched to OSX.
and then...
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... Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet.

So, it isn't ready for the desktop now, because you had problems 6 years ago?

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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2010, 03:10:06 PM »
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I have ubuntu on my laptop. it is a great os. for linux, it is easy to use.
Works great for web, mail, facebook, etc....
 
But it sucks for gaming. Have tried it in my pc.
Getting games to work, specially new games ain't easy.
And when they work. it works at half the speed of windows, at half the GFX settings of windows.

 
I find it brillaint for games, znes, mame scumm etc.
 
I gave up continualluy upgrtadding my pc to run newer games and just stick to my xbox and wii.  
 
For everything I use my computer for ubuntu has it more than covered and its all free :)
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2010, 03:13:07 PM »
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I ran Ubuntu Karmic but switched from Gnome->KDE. And yes, I know CPU scaling works on this system (it ran Windows earlier)
 
But you missed the point - this kind of pinching, poking and tweaking shouldn't be necessary.

Sorry I am a recent ubuntu convert , and yes it does pee me off on occassion . Infact after weeks of messing about had to downgrade to 8.04 as the intergraterd ati gpu in my laptop not supported anymore (or by windows for that matter) , but as to fiddling, if you have used Amiga, and I assume you have given the nature of this site , its part of the fun.
 
But as i posted on another thread. Enable restricted drivers for gpu and wirelss and everyhting works out of box.
 
cheap no name bluetooth just works and connects to my home theatre for sound. Creative zen vison m sycs out of box etc etc etc connect new printers, installs ( couldnt get it to work with windows 7) , low level ink warning etc work .
 
I tired some distros years ago and didnt get anywhere.  With ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 its pretty much as polished as windows if you ask me
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2010, 03:56:25 PM »
Google OS will be YALD, and therefore boring.  MacOS is YALD (YADD?), and also boring.  Linux is boring.  Windows is Boring.  AmigaOS is boring.

All OS's these days are boring.  What isn't boring is the stuff that runs on them.  Right now the most (general computer, including games) stuff runs on Windows, just based on scale and availability.  I've got a limited amount of time to do "stuff", and can't be bothered with dicking around with WINE just to smugly say "HA! I don't run Windows to play games!"

I won't pay the Mac Tax (by the way, it's Mac not MAC, the latter is the acronym for Media Access Control and has nothing specific to do with Apple computers (the former))...and then pay for a Windows license on top of that to play PC games (and be bothered with rebooting/running some kind of virtualized PC session).

So for me the place to be is Windows.  I find 20 year old 2d platformers to be depthless and dull and they just bore me to tears, so running a virtual amiga environment ain't gettin' it either (although there were some great flight sims and some not too bad original FPS's on the Amiga, too!)

Point is, there's a place for all OSs, because at the end of the day, what counts is what you do with it, not how "responsive" or for god's sake how "silky smooth" it is, nor how fast it polls the joystick port, etc. etc.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2010, 05:04:08 PM »
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OK, so to sum this post up:
So, it isn't ready for the desktop now, because you had problems 6 years ago?

:confused:


Read my  posts again.  The problems I just described happened about a month ago.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2010, 06:09:53 PM »
The war is allways pc vs mac but lest comparing mac hardware vs mac hardware, same mac mini under morphos 2.4 and osx 14.0 (some feline name), comparing it, osx is terribly slow and responsiveness.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2010, 10:38:30 PM »
Mac's will never be anything but an "also ran". Mac's would be gone if the iPod hadn't rescued Apple.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2010, 10:48:54 PM »
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The war is allways pc vs mac but lest comparing mac hardware vs mac hardware, same mac mini under morphos 2.4 and osx 14.0 (some feline name), comparing it, osx is terribly slow and responsiveness.


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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2010, 11:22:58 PM »
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Mac's would be gone if the iPod hadn't rescued Apple.


True.  Hopefully the iPad will take them down a peg or two.

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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #144 on: March 23, 2010, 11:45:34 PM »
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Read my  posts again.  The problems I just described happened about a month ago.
Weird.. Not sure how I misread that...   :confused:

Anyway, if you're installing new, you don't want "nv"..
You want to install the driver from NVidia.
(Which is what you would do with a Windows box.)
Once you do that, you get the NVidia driver; and kernel updates automatically update the NVidia driver when needed...

And judging by the comments on the Windows forums and the people I know who have tried it, you still have similar driver issues with Windows latest releases.

Mac has always had the advantage of supporting a much smaller hardware base, so driver compatibility is easier for them...

The sound issue is a pain.  Just looked it up..  I was using Gnome, so didn't come across those issues...

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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #145 on: March 24, 2010, 01:49:55 AM »
Who using anything but GNOME anyways?!

Linux is OK, nowadays most things just up and work upon install, but all the stuff *I* personally have / want to use, don't run so great in Linux.

I go with Fedora instead of Ubuntu, because Ubuntu is too brown for me.  Brown is boring and ugly, and the new screens i saw look like an OSX ripoff.  I do not approve .
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #146 on: March 24, 2010, 02:05:15 AM »
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Who using anything but GNOME anyways?!


Me.

Enlightenment (and prior to that Openbox) on the EeePC.

Gnome on a netbook is too heavy. And the netbook remixes don't do anything for me.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #147 on: March 24, 2010, 03:12:44 AM »
:D ah, yeah.

When I need lightweight I use xfce, its got a little mouse for a logo, and I like those.

im mostly anti KDE.  Never cared for it.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #148 on: March 24, 2010, 04:13:03 AM »
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:D ah, yeah.

When I need lightweight I use xfce, its got a little mouse for a logo, and I like those.


Enlightenment is about as lightweight as xfce but far prettier and imho more conducive to workflow (YMMV).

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im mostly anti KDE.  Never cared for it.


I've played with both and wasn't really impressed with either. I mean I can use either of them just fine and they both have good and bad about them, but for me there simply wasn't anything there that really stood out.

Right now I'm using Elive on the eeepc. It works superbly. I'll be putting it on the F5 soon for use as my primary OS.
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Re: Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac
« Reply #149 on: March 24, 2010, 05:14:02 AM »
I have Windows 7, and I actually like it. It runs really well on my computer. I haven't had major problems with it yet. DirectX is a great API for developers. If Commodore would have actually marketed the Amiga API when it had the chance, maybe C= wouldn't have gone bankrupt so soon. By what I've read of the Amiga API code, it looks pretty easy, but it's not promoted. The only Mac I would buy would be a Mac Mini with OS X Server so that I could have unlimited user accounts for cheaper than what Microsoft charges.
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