Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

[Boudicca]

I agree with you, I networked my own entire house (5 rooms) for about £150 using ethernet over mains plugs, yes i have WIFI but that is firewalled from my network and purely used for internet access.

As no Amiga (or Amigalike) OS has any any WIFI support better than WEP (which is so easily hacked its a joke) you might as well not bother with any security.

Gaz

I just drilled holes. Nuff Said ! Then again.....there is awful lot of Cat5e running round the house

[gazgod]

I just drilled holes. Nuff Said ! Then again.....there is awful lot of Cat5e running round the house

My house is ex RAF solid concrete construction, When I did some rewiring it took 30 minutes to get through one wall with a big professional "Hilty" drill, so the less holes I have to drill the better

Gaz

[RMK305]

Pitty they weren't making a laptop. Sitting in Starbucks with an Amiga laptop would have been cool.

How are they able to call it the AmigaOne? Wouldn't that name have been registered to Eyetech?

[gazgod]

I think its pretty damn funny that over on the other Amiga sites its all dancing bannana's and everyone screaming saviour and here its one big MEH!!!!!!  
Just a funny observation!

I think its most probably down to a realism here.

All we have is a web page stating some of the system specs, we've all seen these before and I personally am sitting in the wait and see camp.

If/when this board is released even if it does have a dual core CPU then i doubt that the second core is supported, as rogue stated that this is something that is to be looked at after MAP(which I presume is this board). How long this will take is anyone's guess, but as I stated earlier in one of these threads that OS4 for Sam was released in September 2008 and Hyperion still haven't delivered a USB2 driver, which i imagine is far simpler than adding SMP support.

As for the XMOS coprocessor, is it going to be like the FPGA on the SAM - useless?

Gaz

[kolla]

What's the point of adding wireless card to it when AmigaOS has no wireless stack, let alone any drivers (beyond ancient prism2 driver that requires dedicated prefs program and only supports WEP).

When will Amiga users realize just how far behind in things AmigaOS is in terms of technology?

[Boudicca]

Pitty they weren't making a laptop. Sitting in Starbucks with an Amiga laptop would have been cool.

How are they able to call it the AmigaOne? Wouldn't that name have been registered to Eyetech?

Amiga Laptop are u serious, why on earth would anyone want a laptop.....I haven't payed for a laptop in years. I get dumped one annual for my sins for working in IT. A Laptop means I can work for others from anywhere at anytime, its slavery not a means of escape.

[spihunter]

Lol! Sitting in a Starbucks with a laptop is not cool in anyway....Even if it was an Amiga!

Pitty they weren't making a laptop. Sitting in Starbucks with an Amiga laptop would have been cool.

How are they able to call it the AmigaOne? Wouldn't that name have been registered to Eyetech?

[arnljot]

Ethernet ower power works great everywhere in my flat, except where I need it. Too much noice from all the equipment which is hooked up there...

Amiga is far behind, smp, memory protection, security model for multiuser, java, 3d, wifi, usb, firewire... The list could probably be longer kolla. But we need to start somewhere, or the gap will just grow. I think that we'll get smp with X1000. On amiga roundtable Rouge said that smp would be started right after MAP. I think he "lied", I think it's part of MAP.

Amiga needs WPA Wifi. It'll probably take a long long time if we have to wait for MOS or Hyperion to do it.

[runequester]

What's the point of adding wireless card to it when AmigaOS has no wireless stack, let alone any drivers (beyond ancient prism2 driver that requires dedicated prefs program and only supports WEP).

When will Amiga users realize just how far behind in things AmigaOS is in terms of technology?

If I want to be ahead on technology, I have my linux computer for that.

[Boudicca]

If I want to be ahead on technology, I have my linux computer for that.

U use linux on bleeding edge pc.....How quaint I'm using ubuntu 8.04 on basic P4 from 2005. Does the job. ! Its writing this post fine enough !

[MskoDestny]

Amiga is far behind, smp, memory protection, security model for multiuser, java, 3d, wifi, usb, firewire... The list could probably be longer kolla. But we need to start somewhere, or the gap will just grow.

One has to wonder whether it's worth trying to catch up vs starting with a more modern design. I imagine the number of existing Amiga apps that you would actually want to use these days other than hardware hitting games is pretty small. Amiga OS's ease of use was high for its day, but I'm not convinced its terribly remarkable these days.

The only real thing Amiga OS has going for it these days is that it's lightweight and relatively simple. However, you can get that without bringing along a bunch of design baggage intended to deal with the limitations of 80's technology (lack of memory protection for example). Apart from requiring expensive PowerPC hardware and running decade old software (if not older), what does Amiga OS bring to the table that something like Haiku or Syllable does not?

[zylesea]

hmmmm sounds a bit cheap....was it Heathkit.....last dev kit with of any use I've seen costs a few bob more than that. Current Atmel and Arm kits are in the several hundred area and anything with a screen and keyboard you need be in the trade already. The current "Hardware" development is aimed at the trade not the innovators, its time that balance was redressed.

There you go: https://www.xmos.com/store 99 US$ for that.

And Atmel sets can be pretty cheap, too. Cypress even gives some of their PSoC kits away for free (at least I paid nothing). The days dev kits for embedded chips were insanly expensive are mostly over.

[Boudicca]

There you go: https://www.xmos.com/store 99 US$ for that.

And Atmel sets can be pretty cheap, too. Cypress even gives some of their PSoC kits away for free (at least I paid nothing). The days dev kits for embedded chips were insanly expensive are mostly over.

Thought as much...usb only....u want ethernet thats the next kit, audio the next and so on........by the time you have got everything u need you payed a hefty whack. Free is that the same sort of free I get my laptop by any chance on the basis of......work.

[RMK305]

Lol! Sitting in a Starbucks with a laptop is not cool in anyway....Even if it was an Amiga!

I was thinking cool from the point that no one would know what it was. I don't even go to Starbucks, but I would make a point of going a couple of times just to flash something people there had never seen before...and yes, I mean an Amiga and not my wanger.

[SamuraiCrow]

There you go: https://www.xmos.com/store 99 US$ for that.

And Atmel sets can be pretty cheap, too. Cypress even gives some of their PSoC kits away for free (at least I paid nothing). The days dev kits for embedded chips were insanly expensive are mostly over.

I think the XCore chip on the X1000 is wired to the main memory bus in such a way that it can be a slave processor for replacing interrupts with.  The author of the Radeon drivers for OS 4 said as much on this amigaworld.net thread.  See post #21.

[zylesea]

I think the XCore chip on the X1000 is wired to the main memory bus in such a way that it can be a slave processor for replacing interrupts with.  The author of the Radeon drivers for OS 4 said as much on this amigaworld.net thread.  See post #21.

Would make sense, but still not a big difference than to hook it up to the pci bus. As soon as it want have access to shared system routines it needs to trigger an interrupt at the host cpu to get permission. Better than hooking up to usb (where the stack must trigger an sw interrupt), but not much different than any other dma access (e.g. by a pci card)...