New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues

[koaftder]

Humm...a computer that has not one but many processors? The Xcore/other cpu combo theory would make sense.   The first Amiga was based on mutiple chips doing a specific job and speaking to each other while PCs and alike worked on the basis of giving all the tasks to the CPU. (its just brain storming, no nerdy-techno flames needed plz)

A machine like that could surely bust into the market if its programmable and modifiable on the fly when new apps/idea are found.

Could this computer be made compatible for say..playing the latest PC games whitout being a windows PC while keeping your favorite apps on AmigaOS?  Best of both worlds?  Who drugged my coffee?  

no

[Crom00]

I'm very excited for the final information. I remember when NewTek had to reinvent themselves and move away for the Amiga Video Toaster Flyer. Today they are very successful with their TriCaster line which has the heart and spirt of the Amiga Video Toaster 4000 on steriods. It's time for the Amiga under Hyperion to reinvent itself too.

ahhh the Tricaster.... A very Amiga like setup.... features heavy use of FPGA's as well.  Even more than FPGA it uses brute force approach of DirectX card, and CPU speed to work it's magic, at the heart is the PC Toaster VT4 Live card for the SD versions.

Newtek is fond of the Amiga...There's one guy at NewTek that has an Amiga shrine.
At one point they even had a multicore Lightwave renderer called screamer...that conected to the Amiga... with a nice case design.


Would love to see this new amiga capture HDMI video. I don't think it would work for NewTek though... they've totally moved on and the TC relies on technology like, flash, vc1, Windows media, DirectX that is robust (compared to OS4) and well supported. TO implement a Toaster like device would require lots of code to be written from scratch.

But a new Amiga with the potential for HD video IO is cool. Would be cool to have a new HDTV SUPER AGA chipset that is totally compatible with HDTV like the original chipsets worked with NTSC and PAl SD video.

[Karlos]

no

And the first nomination for the "Piru award for concise terseness" goes to koaftder...

Seriously though, no. Consider that not even Wine on my current PC (which was built to play games when not running linux) can properly do that, despite having nVidia's own OpenGL3 capable drivers installed.

[AeroMan]

That was my guess too (pwrficient), based on 5 mins googling and a quick appraisal of the apparently supported features. However, since apple now own it, how are they supposed to acquire them?

I've discarded PA Semi for the same reasons. I still bet on the QorIQ.
XCore seems nice
Man, I can´t wait to see...

[Zac67]

Could this computer be made compatible for say..playing the latest PC games whitout being a windows PC while keeping your favorite apps on AmigaOS?  Best of both worlds?  Who drugged my coffee?  

What for? If you want a Wintel box buy one.

[JimS]

I personally hope Hyperion don't compete on price: they can't.  And neither did the Amiga.  They can compete on value though.  The A1000 was hugely expensive...  The next machine, "for the masses", was expensive compared to other "home" computers such as Spectrums or 64s.

I have to disagree that the Amiga never competed on price. It always did. Comparing it to the Spectrum/64 - still available at the A1000 introduction is unfair. You have to compare them to the 8-bit machines at the introductory price of those older machines, and to contemporary mac/pc hardware. I paid about $1500 for my 1000 in 87 or so... That was only a little more than my Atari 800 setup in 79. The Amiga was cheaper than the MACs and PCs available at the time, and more powerful, especially for multimedia stuff.

Alas, that was then, and this is now. ;-/  The marketplace is different. A new machine has to be able to support all the media standards on the web - a huge software requirement right out of the gate... tricky....

[Karlos]

Man, I can´t wait to see...

Yeah, kudos to hyperion. My amiga.org activity rating was flagging badly at about 20% 3 days ago :lol:

[MskoDestny]

My current bet is that the CPU is something in the Xilinx Virtex 5 family. The two PowerPC 440 cores explains the 8 x 25% hint and the ability to host soft cores in the FPGA would explain the more recent comment about cores "No, it doesn't have the number of cores you are thinking of. Whatever number you are thinking of. At least, not necessarily." The dual core Virtex 5 support 3 or 4 PCIe endpoints (depending on the model) and from what I understand each endpoint supports 8 PCIe lanes, so it would seem to match the slots (assuming two endpoints can be ganged together for a single x16 card).

I don't think the Xorro slot is an HTX slot like someone suggested. If the larger connector was a reversed PCIe x16 slot (physically, electrically the slot is HyperTransport in HTX) it would stick out further than the two x16 slots on the board. The notch is also on the wrong end. My assumption is that it's some sort of custom expansion slot. Not sure what it's for though.

The placement of the PCIe and PCI slots is rather strange. Much further from the edge of the PCB than on a standard motherboard. I wonder why.

[Golem!dk]

The placement of the PCIe and PCI slots is rather strange. Much further from the edge of the PCB than on a standard motherboard. I wonder why.

To let elbox sell you special cards to use in your new amiga?

[Marcb]

I'm enjoying the antici...

I will definitely be treating myself to one of these if it has some kind of legacy software solution, it's managed to get me as excited as I was when I bought my first a500...


...pation!

[xyzzy]

Virtex 5 are verrrrry expensive, i'd be surprised if it was one of those.

[arnljot]

Seems like it's gonna be a dual core PPC motherboard with modern ports and slots. Wonder if it'll be DDR2 or DDR3 memory.

I also wonder what the X chipset is. Nothing I've heard so far seems likely, but I do find the transmuter theories interesting.

[koaftder]

My current bet is that the CPU is something in the Xilinx Virtex 5 family. The two PowerPC 440 cores explains the 8 x 25% hint and the ability to host soft cores in the FPGA would explain the more recent comment about cores "No, it doesn't have the number of cores you are thinking of. Whatever number you are thinking of. At least, not necessarily." The dual core Virtex 5 support 3 or 4 PCIe endpoints (depending on the model) and from what I understand each endpoint supports 8 PCIe lanes, so it would seem to match the slots (assuming two endpoints can be ganged together for a single x16 card).
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Nah, it's gonna be one of those ppc chips with everything integrated onto the die deals with some cool goodies on the bus. Probably would have had all this years ago if it weren't for Amiga Inc cock blocking all these years.

[Karlos]

All this "xena" custom chip speculation gave me pause for a moment earler. Anybody remember Phase5's A\Box plans and their propsed Caipirinha custom chip? I so wanted that machine

For anybody totally in the dark about that, see here

[Radfoo]

The placement of the PCIe and PCI slots is rather strange. Much further from the edge of the PCB than on a standard motherboard. I wonder why.

Had not noticed that before, but yes they are lots further into the board than normal.  I guess its only going to fit properly in the A-EON case.

[Crom00]

I have to disagree that the Amiga never competed on price. It always did. Comparing it to the Spectrum/64 - still available at the A1000 introduction is unfair. You have to compare them to the 8-bit machines at the introductory price of those older machines, and to contemporary mac/pc hardware. I paid about $1500 for my 1000 in 87 or so...

The problem with the whole situation back then is that Commodore needed a drop in replacement for the Commodre 64 for mass retail, that's what retailers wanted. Something that could hold up against PC's and Nintendo... A refresh item around 87-89. Commodore never delivered one... by then the Amiga was not marketed as a MASS item. That one mistake (and many others) brought down the house of cards.

They had a sterling reputation of a runaway mass market hit... the ipod of it's day and made one critical mistake.

I've spoken to retailers and toy experts who just shake their heads in disbelief when they think about that...They had prime shelf space that YOU NEVER GIVE UP.. that's like rule #1.