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Offline kolla

Re: New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues
« Reply #404 from previous page: January 05, 2010, 04:18:23 PM »
Quote from: persia;536543
True, but a niche machine that just might sell a few tens of thousands.  You don't have to take on the big guys to survive, just carve out a big enough niche.  A lot of companies work this way.


What niche could an Amiga possible take?!

There is currently only one single app that is vaguely interesting, and it is Hollywood - there is no _need_ for a powerhouse amiga, there's a desperate need for _low price_ amiga.

The idea that X1000 must be high end because the A1000 was high end is just bogus - it was not the A1000 that made amiga, it was much more the A500 that made the amiga popular and that earned money. This platform desperatly needs more developers, what is needed is cheap hardware and a unique and excellent developer environment - expencive hardware and crippled OS does not attract anything.

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The X1000 is a decent low mid-range computer that has some unique features, these features are a hook that will grab hobbyists who are interested in something different.  Combined with clever advertising, they can do well.


What unique features? The only unique feature I can see is the price. The only thing different with it is this useless xorro slot and whatever junk they put in it - the same junk can also be bought on PCI/PCIe cards and be used on PCs, but for some weird reason PC builders dont enforce them onto the consumers, like Hyperion is trying to do here.

To call SAM400 "entry level" with the price tag it has is just stupid, my brand new CBM-A1200 in 1994 costed less than SAM440, alot less - that was entry level, and in a time when the PCs costed 4-5 times as much.

But again - if they make Amiga keyboards for the X1000, I'll get a handfull.
And wait for the el cheapo X500, or whatever they will call it.
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Y'all have to be smokin crack through a pipe to believe this could compete with Mac or PC. This will be a niche machine at best...and maybee they'll get some embedded uses or  some industry will use it like some form of industrial PC or appliance.



Perhaps we've discovered who actually received Commodore's crack pipe in the bankruptcy, or perhaps it was awarded by the courts?  

I wish Hyperion luck, but I thought the SAM was way too expensive...and I actually bought an A1000 at full retail in 1985.
 

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Oh God... I cannot believe the negativity. One just can not win. OS 4 wasnt good enough, neither was SAM, and now... Oh, well.
 

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I think it's allowed to be critical. But some comments here is beyond critical, they are right out negative with no basis other than "I've been burned 10 years ago, never again".

I think this negativity and inability to move on is why the a-eon thread on aw.net is so much more active. People are tired of just bad wibes and unrealistic wishes.

To believe that Hyperion should be able to mount a "full scale attatck" on Dell, MS, Apple, Compaq and IBM by them selves and release a killer machine which costs less or equal to what Dell or Apple can sell... Well, we then can speculate on where the pipe is.

Amiga is about having fun. It's fun people and fun computing. With the community on amibay, and the recent buzz on aw.net we've seen it again. And I think that the Amiga X1000 is truely inspirering and exciting with the Xorro and XMOS.

I hope more people will catch on, and I'm glad to see that it hasn't been all nay-sayers here either! :-)
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but all we have seen so far is a mainboard and what looks like a part of a case. Are these the only parts that are going to be available? Is the end buyer going to end up paying extra for HD's, GFX card etc etc?

@ Hyperion

Where's the rest of the parts that make up this super-duper all-singing. all dancing, all-juggling new Amiga computer?

What (if any) GFX card does it come with as standard?
What (if any) size hard drive is fitted as standard?
Does it have a floppy drive (DF0: or A: ) as standard?
Will it ship with an OS? If so, what version?

Will all the above be 'optional extra's'?

There are currently more questions than answers regarding all of this ... Let's see the reverse for a change!
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 05:14:53 PM by ZeBeeDee »
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Floppy drive, LOL.

:)

Your right ZeBeeDee, more questions need to be answered.
 

Offline arnljot

Sure there are a lot of questions, and most of those you ask are good ones. But I think it'll all be answered in time. They've said it'll be out before summer.

- It's a full computer. Not only motherboard
- It will be sold with OS4.x installed
- I'll be sold with some harddrive obviously then
- Why would you expect floppy to be part of a modern computer, because Amiga classic had it? This is 3rd party perhiperal domain now. Ie Catweasel PCI or the like. Jens or someone else should provide decent OS4 drivers.
- It'll be cheaper than the A1000 was in it's time. That leaves a lot of room for speculation, should the price be adjusted for inflation since 1985??
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The day OS4 or MOS gets ported to x86 I'll care, before that it's just a waste of a lot of money on expensive hardware. Money should go to coders, people that code the OS and people that build applications or port them and not to pay for product development of obscure hardware. The world have large companies that already are competing and are good at building hardware. It should not matter if it's x86 or not, that's just a stupid 80's thing from the PC vs Amiga vs Mac era.
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Well good luck Hyperion. I don't see how this will accelerate their cause / business but we don't know exactly what it does / is ( robot controller etc, wtf...). And doing nothing was a favorite option of owners past. So, they keep doing stuff, I see that as good.
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Floppy drive, LOL.

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Oh God... I cannot believe the negativity. One just can not win. OS 4 wasnt good enough, neither was SAM, and now... Oh, well.

Negative? Hardly! In fact I'm thinking about ordering one of these XMOS development boards - for $99:

https://www.xmos.com/products/development-kits/xc-1-development-kit

Provided the free development tools and software emulator prove interesting, of course.
 

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Great new for Amiga!
 

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- Why would you expect floppy to be part of a modern computer, because Amiga classic had it?

I would like to see a 3." drive fitted as standard.

If it's a new Amiga then I'd like it to run existing Amiga software (via emulation or whatever) ... Not just off a WHDLoad install or CD but from original Amiga formatted discs too. I have an extensive collection of software on this medium (as do others) and I would like to be able to run it from the disc or at least transfer it to the X1000 via a disc drive.

Why should the end user pay for a Catweasel interface for something that should be so simple to implement in this new fangled thing-a-ma-jig???

I'd also like to see various types of kit's available ... mainboard only or mainboard and GFX card to install in your own case ... If not then why not? Bring the computer to the masses, not only to those who can afford to buy a complete system.
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Why do we have to have this debate every time a new Amiga product is announced? We'd all love to see Amiga go mainstream again, and of course it would make the products cheaper. But can't we please just play it by ear, forgo the arguing about whether this machine is useful in the mainstream, an enjoy whatever we get as a hobby machine? Those who don't think they can find a use for it or can't justify the cost don't have to buy it.

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I hope you're not suggesting it's a hobby computer. You're taking a risk, all h*lls could break loose. :-)

"Please stop calling AmigaOS / MorphOS a hobby os!!!!"
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How about a punched card reader too?

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Floppy drive, LOL.

:)

Your right ZeBeeDee, more questions need to be answered.
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