New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.

[motorollin]

I'm really jealous of some of the people posting in this thread. I wish my life were so simple and uneventful that I had to make such a big deal over something so insignificant. It must be nice to have so little stress in your life!

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moto

[AJCopland]

What a huge fuss over very little. Wayne is still here, most of our moderators are unchanged and the new owners have no more information or access to information about any user than Wayne or anyone else ever did.

I'm a little curious about who the new owner is, and I wish them luck.

After the usual explosions of paranoia against their unknown person(s), who simply wish to keep this community going, I'll continue to be amazed as to how anyone can cope with us all!

Andy

PS: Wayne I think you've handled all this really well.

[AJCopland]

"sell it to Spanish lesbians" .. the one disappointment is that they won't

[Wayne]

I'm just curious about something.

Botched announcement aside (and that's what it was), is there ANYONE IN THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY -- hell, even on this planet that you guys would NOT be having this little melodramatic hissy fit over?

If everyone can name me that one person, I would probably faint dead away.

Face it.  The Amiga community is nothing if not overtly melodramatic in a very real way about every little thing, so if anything, I find this just another source of amusement in the road.

I'm not trying to devalue your concerns as much as I am simply trying to share a bit of perspective over the whole thing.  The fact is that I am "retiring" and SOMEONE had to either step up or the site would simply disappear one day.  

Yes, probably to be replaced by Spanish Lesbians so I could put it on sedo.com and sell it for money, but the point remains the same.

The site is here, nothing has changed, life goes on.  There is no single person, group, or entity on the planet you guys would not have freaked out over, so please, can't we just move on to the next little micro-melodrama and go back to enjoying the Amiga?  Pretty please?

Wayne

[Boudicca]

If everyone can name me that one person, I would probably faint dead away.

Jeremy Clarkson.......nuff said.

[x303]

I'm not trying to devalue your concerns as much as I am simply trying to share a bit of perspective over the whole thing.  The fact is that I am "retiring" and SOMEONE had to either step up or the site would simply disappear one day.

Yep, but why does it has to be Obama ? He was other problems too... Like saving the planet.
   
   
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[Wayne]

I can't stop thinking about this, and finally see it from your perspectives.  Let me say that I understand.  I get it.  

Whether you love me, or think me the Anti-Christ (as some have said), Wayne Hunt is a known evil that you've all dealt with for 15 years now.

As a webmaster and forum guru, I have my own quirks.  I have my own pet peeves, I am insanely predictable when it comes to getting certain buttons pushed, and for a lot of the same reasons each time.

Now comes the day that I've chosen to move on with my own life, and you guys are left hanging by the botched announcement of the owner(s).  You're all pissed, you're all concerned, and yes, even a little scared of "the future".  Again, I do get it.

Enter a new era where you have to not only figure out the new guy(s), but learn their quirks and peeves.  

It's a scary thing, and I just want to say firmly and openly that I get that.  

Just please take me at my word that -- money aside -- I would not have sold this site to anyone that I thought would have done it -- or this community -- harm.  I wanted above all else, for the site to continue and even improve if we could get the right person(s) to run it and make these improvements.  

If I felt otherwise, I literally would have put it on the open market to see if I could sell it as an adult domain, gaining myself FAR more money than I received.

I'm not asking you to forget your concerns.  I'm not suggesting in any way that you're not validly concerned.  I'm just asking that you each take a moment to consider things from my perspective as well as I am from yours.

Everything will be ok..

Wayne

[amigadave]

@takemehomegrandma,

My opinion obviously is 180 degrees from yours on this topic.  I also do not agree with your assessment of why Wayne stated that Bill McEwen, Bill Buck, or Doomy are not the new owner(s).

If the new owner has indicated (through Wayne so far, who I trust and I think you also trust) that the site is not going to change, so why is such a big deal being made about what the name of the new owner(s) is/are?  If the new owner has agreed that Wayne is to remain here for an unnamed amount of time to smooth the transition, then we should give that transition and some time beyond a chance.  Yes, no one can guarantee what the new owner is going to do in the future, but you also cannot predict that anything bad will happen even if the new owner turns out to be Bill P., or Tedd Gallion, or a company with many employees and investors called DiscreetFX, or the former Netscape Executive.  

You all can judge the new owner(s) and think the worst will happen if you happen to dislike any of their previous actions, or you can go on participating on this site just as you have always done and enjoy this site until something happens to change it that you do not like.  Then you can decide if you want to stay and continue participating here, or if you want to leave.  Personally, I think choosing to leave here as soon as you find out a name, or names of the new owner(s), just to spite them because you have disagreed with one or two of their previous actions or posts, is childish, but is anyone's choice.  I choose to be optimistic and believe what Wayne has been saying all along, that this site is in good hands and will continue to be the premiere Amiga site on the Internet for the foreseeable future.  This site is more about it's members than the owner, no disrespect to Wayne intended.

Just because the owner(s) have not revealed themselves yet does not change this site, no matter how much you and others try to say otherwise.  It is still all the same members that contribute here.  The site has not been flooded with advertising (which I guess is some people's fear).

@Boudicca,

I think you should continue to trust what Wayne has said repeatedly, until the new owner actually does something besides changing their mind about revealing their identity.  This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion to what is actually important on this site by a few people for no good reasons that actually affect the site, IMHO of course.  I think there are many silent members here, plus Wayne himself, that agree that the "circus" as some have put it, has been created more by the people unhappy about the lack of knowing the owner, than the owner(s) themselves.

I am tired of trying to calm people down in regard to this topic so all of you can be glad that you won't have to read my long posts on this topic anymore.  As far as I am concerned, I am not happy that the owner(s) have not yet revealed themselves, but it has been beat to death already and needs no further discussion by me, as I have made my thoughts on all of this clear already.  I think we all have better things to do than worry about a name, or names, until something actually changes here.

[ffastback]

I'm just curious about something.

Botched announcement aside (and that's what it was), is there ANYONE IN THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY -- hell, even on this planet that you guys would NOT be having this little melodramatic hissy fit over?

The only melodrama I see here is a new owner who agreed to go on a hyped show to "reveal him/herself" and then was a no show.  I didn't ask for the new owner's name before that.  I didn't ask for a hyped delivery vehicle for that news either.  And neither did most folks.  This little podcast media circus thing was not the community's doing.  

You don't want to be revealed, fine don't agree to be revealed.  You are private and shy but want to reveal yourself, fine don't choose a hyped media event that you will chicken out of.

Instead of going on offense to say the community is the issue maybe the simplest answer is the best one.  The new owner screwed up and wasted folks time.

And sorry but it does not help to have weirdness with this anonymous entity tied to Bill after there was other weirdness with another anonymous entity tied to Bill just a couple of weeks ago.

[ffastback]

As a webmaster and forum guru, I have my own quirks.  I have my own pet peeves, I am insanely predictable when it comes to getting certain buttons pushed, and for a lot of the same reasons each time.

Well lets just hope its not the former Netscape exec guy replacing you.  I found the message he had published through Bill a bit creepy, with that talk about removing donations and withholding other project donations based on him taking things not even said about him at all as personal insults.  It was just plain weird.

[Wayne]

The only melodrama I see here is a new owner who agreed to go on a hyped show to "reveal him/herself" and then was a no show.

Again, I understand that as well, though the proportion scale is broken for some.

I need everyone here to understand that -- if anyone -- I share a large bit of blame in said non-announcement, as it was my suggestion which ultimately lead to the ART situation to begin with.  When pushing for it, I did not realize that the new owner(s) were intending more of a desire to remain private, so I fully accept the mea culpa.

I wish it could be different now, but it's not.  It literally is, what it is, so we can sit here blowing it further out of proportion, or we can all just call it a non-event and go back to our normally scheduled lives realizing we're neither better nor worse for it.

BTW, Even though I sounded like an idiot (I take things way too frivolously and I apparently sound like Kermit the Frog), I think the ART came off well with a lot of help from Joe Torre, and I look forward to the opportunity to participate in another some day.

Wayne

[persia]

I think we can all rest assured that the Spanish Lesbians who made this possible will not be forgotten.  

As Doomy might sing "Only   Spanish Lesbians   Make it possible..."

[Louis Dias]

My prediction:

New owner comes forward...and nothing happens.


Oh, by the way:
I forgot to say my prayers before bed last night and ...  nothing happened!
Unbelievable.

[save2600]

Amazing how this announcement so closely mirrors what has been going on with Amiga Inc. for years! lol  Something we should all be used to by now  ;-)  Glad to see some things will never change. Scratch that! lol

[mike-]

BTW, Even though I sounded like an idiot (I take things way too frivolously and I apparently sound like Kermit the Frog), I think the ART came off well with a lot of help from Joe Torre, and I look forward to the opportunity to participate in another some day.

You sounded fine, i on the other hand sounded like a groggy gnome... I didnt even manage to grab a cup of coffee before i realized i was hours late for the show...

The show turned out great, both you and Joe were very interesting guests, considering the situation, you guys most certainly saved the show.

As for this being blown out of proportions... god yes... I´ve never seen so much fuss over such a simple little thing like a website changing owners, i cant imagine that this would be anything more then a "non-event" on any other non amiga related site?

[ffastback]

As for this being blown out of proportions... god yes... I´ve never seen so much fuss over such a simple little thing like a website changing owners, i cant imagine that this would be anything more then a "non-event" on any other non amiga related site?

It changing owners is not an issue.  Nor would it be an issue if the new owner stayed anonymous from the get go (IMHO anyway).  The show came to us however seeking an audience for this "event" a.k.a. coming out party.  Not the other way around.  The show was the one advertising and with exclaimation marks about this.

On non-amiga sites there would not have been a podcast event for this in the first place.  

The secrecy in general seems silly for starters.  The no-show is someone not keeping their word.  Thats disappointing and not the best way to start a relationship.

Any way you slice it that was not cool.  Now maybe you think people have "overreacted".  But it sure would be nice if folks running stuff in Amiga land stopped making the same mistake over and over and over and over again (i.e. the failed announcemet of an announcement) creating silly situations begging for reactions in the first place.