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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 02:00:24 PM »
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 05:52:58 PM »
Clones made by lotus pacific are leagal and seems that  A5A00 is allso leagal
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 10:10:17 PM »
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They are rather interesting, are these actually clones that have the rights to go into production or are they knock-offs? I can't imagine NEC ever ripping something off but if they did it shouldn't be of a poor quality knowing them.


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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 11:09:14 PM »
We should make a list of companies that have licenses to Amiga OS 3.1 and older...

Cloanto
CU Amiga in 1993
PC Intern in 1999
Amiga Plus and PC Magazine in 2000
Epic Marketing
Runesoft GmbH
Village Tronic Marketing GmbH for "Amiga OS 3.1"
Hyperion Entertainment VOF  
Escom AG
MS MacroSystem Computer GmbH --> MacroSystem Digital Video AG
Tianjin Family Multimedia Co.
Newstar Electronic Corporation
Rightiming Electronics Corporation
Regent Electronics Corp.
Lotus Pacific Inc.

Don't know about Amiga Inc anymore though.

I'm sure most of these licenses have moved around when companies got bought out or maybe some of these companies are no longer producing products, but still retain all their rights.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2009, 11:14:33 PM by AmigaHeretic »
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2009, 12:35:17 AM »
Amiga Inc owns AmigaOS 3.1, but can't profit from it.  Interesting that the owner is the only company that can't profit from it....
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2009, 06:23:16 AM »
Amiga inc doesn't own OS3.1

Licenced OS3.1 is usually restricted for certain use.
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A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2009, 11:54:37 AM »
What , who pray tell does then ?
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2009, 12:54:16 PM »
Hyperion Entertainment

Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark “AmigaOS” (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the “BoingBall” logo).

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A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2009, 01:15:11 PM »
That doesnt say that hyperion own it
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2009, 02:59:33 PM »
Amiga Inc owns the AmigaOS 3.1 software, but can't distribute it except to Cloanto and a few other places that already had licensing agreements.  It can make no further licensing agreements nor can it distribute it.  

Hyperion's license from Amiga Inc is exclusive going forward, anyone who had a license in the past in not affected by the ruling, but Amiga Inc cannot grant licenses in the future to anyone without Hyperion's consent.

So basically Lotus Pacific or more likely who ever bought the pieces of Lotus Pacific from bankruptcy, have a legal and unchallengeable right to distribute Amiga OS 3.1 worldwide (and exclusively in China) for whatever that's worth.
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2009, 05:55:54 PM »
I want an Amiga based Karaoke machine!!!!
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2009, 06:17:23 PM »
I am surprised that China has not cloned/copied the Amiga before now, they cloned/copied and ripped off many a hardware and software well before now.
It seems to me that China dont give a hoot, and are well above any kind of law.
Having said that............................
The Chinese made an amateur shortwave radio, specs are high quality and is very very good indeed, NOT copied. a Degen DE-1103 I have ony myself it cost less than £50.00 to buy it and get it shiped over here to the UK, if I was to buy the same spec that is made in the UK I would be expected to pay around £130 - £150
So they can copy/clone any thing and have it made of high quality they have shown this and know it themselvs. Question is Would YOU pay for a cloned/copied Amiga if the quality was high standard also knowing it would be far cheaper?
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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2009, 06:21:19 PM »
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Hyperion Entertainment

Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark “AmigaOS” (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the “BoingBall” logo).

http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/


Does not mean that Hyperion owns or has exclusive rights to AmigaOS 3.1. Most people seem to stop reading before they get to the "in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x" part.
 

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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2009, 12:24:06 AM »
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I want an Amiga based Karaoke machine!!!!


Yeah, but it will only play this over and over....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6uh1Q_D_XU


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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2009, 12:26:00 AM »
That better not be a rickroll or I'm gonna ban you :p

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Re: Chinese Amiga clones
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 17, 2011, 07:12:49 PM »
Thread necromancy!:bump:

I'm still on the quest of getting one (or two, one for TokyoRacer). I'm closer than before, but Chinese inhabitants have the common behalf of throwing away old hardware...:(
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