Amiga 4000 Hardware Forums.

[gertsy]

I am now the proud owner of an A4000/030...(o:
I've cleaned it up, replaced the stuffed floppy with a home moded one, fixed up the power supply and the chassis (Both were bent). In the process I found it has a 3640 in it and not a 30 (As badged).
Checked the mobo for leak damage and freaking caps. All good. It's already moded with a button batt which I replaced.  It's full of RAM happy, sparkling and cheerful again.
Now I am ready to set up the HD.
I have two queries;
I have 2 spare 20GB IDE drives.  One is a Maxtor D740x-6l which partitions out to the full 20GB and works fine on the ATA contoller of the A4000. The other is a WD204 (Very common drive) which partitions okay but only shows 8GB capacity.  (All the Cyls/heads numbers are correct in HDtoolbox), but that's not the issue... I'm happy with 8GB as the Amiga's got a working DVD ROM drive.
The challange is that the WD204 does not boot after a reset.  Its fine from a power off/on but from a reset it's ignored to an instant ROM prompt.
The Max has no problems at all at boot, but it squeels like a banshe and reads'n writes like a chainsaw ripping through a tin dunny(aussie saying). It's bareable (just) with the cover on.
The WD204 is an angel, quiet in running reading and writing. I like it.  but it wont reset boot.  Ive had a play with the FIXIDE97 settings but they don't seem to make a difference.
Any Ideas?

Secondly I am getting a IDE CF Card adaptor (on the way) for the unit anyway, but want to have the OS and everything set up on HD before it arrives for an easy clone. My question is, has anyone set up a 8GB CF Card for an A4000. I've done a 4GB on my A1200 and it's superb but I was thinking of putting a bigger brother in the A4000 (It's only right..)
The card I am thinking of getting is the SanDisk Ultra II 8GB. The bigger brother of the 4GB one I have in my A1200:

Thanks in advance.

Gertsy.

[Tension]

The challange is that the WD204 does not boot after a reset.  Its fine from a power off/on but from a reset it's ignored to an instant ROM prompt.

There is a RESET wire on the IDE cable.  If this is damaged, the drive will not reset.

Check your IDE cable.

[gertsy]

There is a RESET wire on the IDE cable.  If this is damaged, the drive will not reset.

Check your IDE cable.

Nup not the IDE cable, works fine on the noisy drive. I think the drive is trouncing itself (working thru that now) so my guess is there is something more sinister afoot..  Dah dah Daaaahhhhh !.

PS: Anyone used a 8GB CF Card in an A4000 successfully...?

Gertsy

[Tahoe]

Seeing that these are run-of-the-mill 40pin IDE cables, try cutting line 1 (the red line). It used to fix problems with the old seagate drives not being recognised but that was when cold booting the machine (the drive was too slow at spin-up).
Who knows, maybe it works.

Also, I have had many WD drives not functioning properly until I removed all jumpers for Master/Slave. Normally there is a jumper you need to set at Master/Slave or Cable Select, I had to remove the jumper completely on my WD drives.

[gertsy]

Will give it a go on a "not so nice" IDE cable.
The No jumper option too.

Cheers.

Gertsy

[gertsy]

Seeing that these are run-of-the-mill 40pin IDE cables, try cutting line 1 (the red line). It used to fix problems with the old seagate drives not being recognised but that was when cold booting the machine (the drive was too slow at spin-up).
Who knows, maybe it works.

Also, I have had many WD drives not functioning properly until I removed all jumpers for Master/Slave. Normally there is a jumper you need to set at Master/Slave or Cable Select, I had to remove the jumper completely on my WD drives.

Cheers !

The boot issue was fixed by removing the Master jumper.

For some reason I could not use multiple partitions. Once I would format one the other was trounced. I even tried giving a gap between them and between the 2nd partition and the end of the disk.  No go.

But, she's all up and running on a 4GB partition which will be fine to tailor until my CF Card comes.

Thanks for the tip.

BTW: Anyone successfully used an 8GB CF Card on a 4000 ?

Gertsy

[spaceman88]

Hi Gertsy,
I want to do the same thing with my A4000 (replace the HD with a CF card), but how do you clone the HD onto the CF? Is there a program to copy from Master to Slave?
Len

I am now the proud owner of an A4000/030...(o:
I've cleaned it up, replaced the stuffed floppy with a home moded one, fixed up the power supply and the chassis (Both were bent). In the process I found it has a 3640 in it and not a 30 (As badged).
Checked the mobo for leak damage and freaking caps. All good. It's already moded with a button batt which I replaced.  It's full of RAM happy, sparkling and cheerful again.
Now I am ready to set up the HD.
I have two queries;
I have 2 spare 20GB IDE drives.  One is a Maxtor D740x-6l which partitions out to the full 20GB and works fine on the ATA contoller of the A4000. The other is a WD204 (Very common drive) which partitions okay but only shows 8GB capacity.  (All the Cyls/heads numbers are correct in HDtoolbox), but that's not the issue... I'm happy with 8GB as the Amiga's got a working DVD ROM drive.
The challange is that the WD204 does not boot after a reset.  Its fine from a power off/on but from a reset it's ignored to an instant ROM prompt.
The Max has no problems at all at boot, but it squeels like a banshe and reads'n writes like a chainsaw ripping through a tin dunny(aussie saying). It's bareable (just) with the cover on.
The WD204 is an angel, quiet in running reading and writing. I like it.  but it wont reset boot.  Ive had a play with the FIXIDE97 settings but they don't seem to make a difference.
Any Ideas?

Secondly I am getting a IDE CF Card adaptor (on the way) for the unit anyway, but want to have the OS and everything set up on HD before it arrives for an easy clone. My question is, has anyone set up a 8GB CF Card for an A4000. I've done a 4GB on my A1200 and it's superb but I was thinking of putting a bigger brother in the A4000 (It's only right..)
The card I am thinking of getting is the SanDisk Ultra II 8GB. The bigger brother of the 4GB one I have in my A1200:

Thanks in advance.

Gertsy.

[gertsy]

Standard Amiga DOS copy.
I've done it on an A1200 with SCSI. Assume it's easier on an ATA A4000.
I am assuming I can mount the CF Card as ATA Slave. (I have an IDE splitter on my A4000 in any case)
In HDtoolbox : Add the new drive, Check(tick) it, or the first partition, as bootable. Close HDToolbox.
Hopefully from the OS you can see unformatted partitions. Format them.  There are a few demos/tutorials on this on the Web already.
Then "copy all" (from the CLI) your current HD OS (Master) to your CF HD(slave) or the boot partition of it.
I cant remember the full copy command but its in the ADOS ref. You've gotta add the switches for empty folders etc. (I will post it tonight)
Swap in your new CF Card as master, cross your fingers, reboot.
......Punch the air and dance around the room as if Australia had just beaten England in the deciding Test Cricket match because you're now on CF Card and saving the world from carbon. Don't burn your old HD. Keep it stored away safe in a moisture proof bag.

Almost the same answer as back in March: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40994
Happy to help further if you need it.

copy ALL CLONE from myolddrivepartition: to mynewdrivepartition:


Gertsy

[spaceman88]

Hi,
When I playing around with cloning on my 1200 back in March I never made it to the point of using the CLONE ALL command. I couldn't get both  drives ( a 3.5" and a 2.5") to show up at the same time, I think they both wanted to be MASTER. Anyway, my noisy drive died before I could figure it out and I just did a fresh install on the 2.5". I was hoping you were using  a simple program to do the cloning because the CLI and I sometimes don't get along :-(. When I get my CF adapter I'll give it a try.
Thanks for the info,
Len

Standard Amiga DOS copy.
I've done it on an A1200 with SCSI. Assume it's easier on an ATA A4000.
I am assuming I can mount the CF Card as ATA Slave. (I have an IDE splitter on my A4000 in any case)
In HDtoolbox : Add the new drive, Check(tick) it, or the first partition, as bootable. Close HDToolbox.
Hopefully from the OS you can see unformatted partitions. Format them.  There are a few demos/tutorials on this on the Web already.
Then "copy all" (from the CLI) your current HD OS (Master) to your CF HD(slave) or the boot partition of it.
I cant remember the full copy command but its in the ADOS ref. You've gotta add the switches for empty folders etc. (I will post it tonight)
Swap in your new CF Card as master, cross your fingers, reboot.
......Punch the air and dance around the room as if Australia had just beaten England in the deciding Test Cricket match because you're now on CF Card and saving the world from carbon. Don't burn your old HD. Keep it stored away safe in a moisture proof bag.

Almost the same answer as back in March: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40994
Happy to help further if you need it.

copy ALL CLONE from myolddrivepartition: to mynewdrivepartition:


Gertsy

[gertsy]

So has anyone used an 8GB CF Card in an A4000 or A1200?  
I have a (Genuine) SANDISK Ultra II 4GB card in my A1200 and it works like a gem.
I am looking at an 8GB CF (Same model & Brand) for my A4000 on ePay, and I'm licking my lips. 8 GB is perfect for my requirements but it would be a pain if I can only use 4GB of it or worse still can't use it.. SanDisk 8GB Ultra II CF Card. $56.50AU with registered postage.

Be grateful if there are any trail blazers out there.

Gertsy

[spaceman88]

Hi again,
There is a guy on Ebay (Amigatoaster) selling an 8GB CF setup for the 1200 with OS 3.1 installed, he seems to have it formated with 5 partitions of about 2 GB each (except the boot partition).
Len

So has anyone used an 8GB CF Card in an A4000 or A1200?  
I have a (Genuine) SANDISK Ultra II 4GB card in my A1200 and it works like a gem.
I am looking at an 8GB CF (Same model & Brand) for my A4000 on ePay, and I'm licking my lips. 8 GB is perfect for my requirements but it would be a pain if I can only use 4GB of it or worse still can't use it.. SanDisk 8GB Ultra II CF Card. $56.50AU with registered postage.

Be grateful if there are any trail blazers out there.

Gertsy

[gertsy]

Cheers all up and running on 8GB CF.

Gertsy.