How do I install installer?

[ceaser]

I've been trying this for hours.  I got the Installer v43.3 from Aminet.  I keep following different instructions in different places and they're all dead wrong.  I've keep copying the contents of this decompressed installer disk to SYS:C then I tried SYS:S then SYS: then SYS:SYSTEM and nothing works.  It's always cannot open your tool installer.  Why?  Why is this so hard?  Why do I need a separate program not included in Workbench to install IDE Fix 97?

How do I do this?  I'm sick.  I've had this Amiga 4000 since June and have been trying to get a CD-ROM installed since then and cannot do it!  Can someone link me to a tutorial?  There must be a tutorial.  Nothing this hard doesn't have some kind of instructions.  The readme files on IDE Fix Demo don't tell anything.  Nothing says anything about anything.  No instructions come with installer.  This is retarded.  I just want a CD-ROM to work for God sakes!

Yes Hard Disk configured to master at the end of the cable and CD-ROM configured as slave.  This isn't any jumper bs.  I need to know how do I run this installer.  I need exact instructions on what to type in when this disk with Installer v43.3 is in my drive.  HELP i've been trying for months@!

It's workbench 3.1 and I have 3.0 rom in my 4000*

i also reinstalled workbench two times because I thought this was something to do with me doing something else wrong.  i'm really out of ideas.  i keep reading how easy this is to do.  but i can't do it.  just got my worthless A+ certification last week and been working on computers since about 1997.  I do not understand.  I have read so much.  This is NOT working.

I also bought 2 boards neither one of which I could get to work.  Speedup-System and Catweasel.  But Catweasel wasn't for IDE that was so you could hook regular PC floppy drives to your Amiga.  I didn't really need it.  Then I have this Oktagon IDE card coming soon from a friend, but I keep reading the same thing that you are supposed to put the CD-ROM as slave and Hard Disk as master on the native (single one that's there) IDE chain, then use IDE Fix software to make it work.

[tone007]

Put the Installer file in C:

[mike-]

copying it to C: should work, (sys:c where executables are stored assigned to C: for sort)

[ceaser]

eh apologies i'm getting a little dramatic here and seriously need some sleep.  that isn't working.  i've copied it to c.  does ide fix require some really old version of installer?  is that why "can't open tool installer" ?

I heard some other poster have this problem too and people didn't seem to get what he was saying.  He had updated his installer and was wondering why IDE Fix wasn't working.  Same here.  I'll recopy it to C: again but it didn't do anything.  So whatever version of Installer was in there before was the one that came on Workbench 3.1 and then the v43.3, latest official release version of the installer is what I put in C: and when that didn't work put in S: and so on and so forth.

[Golem!dk]

Check if the icon doesn't specify a path for the installer (SYS:Utilities is the correct location).

[Vanilla]

I've been trying this for hours.  I got the Installer v43.3 from Aminet.  I keep following different instructions in different places and they're all dead wrong.  I've keep copying the contents of this decompressed installer disk to SYS:C then I tried SYS:S then SYS: then SYS:SYSTEM and nothing works.  It's always cannot open your tool installer.  Why?  Why is this so hard?  Why do I need a separate program not included in Workbench to install IDE Fix 97?

An installer that can't install itself! :laughing:

What a rip off! :roflmao:

Seriously I know about this and it has annoyed me too. What do you use when you install AmigaOS? A damned installer. What do Commodore neglect to install with the OS? An installer! :crazy:

IMHO this was a bug! Commodore had these guide lines and couldn't even supply an installer for users. It affected users, not delvelopers who didn't include the Installer because they shouldn't need too!

I was helping a PC friend salesman install a CanonDisk driver on an A1200 for a guy who bought a printer off my friend. What happens first? There's no installer! And the comment that it wouldn't have happened on a PC becasue in 1996 Windows was so good and Windows had an installer build into Windows that all the programmers used!! What a wondeful world for the PC! :lol:

Yeah right! PC programs had an installer within the package, my PC friend never noticed that! Okay rant off. I hope your installer works by now, you're not alone. :-)

BTW, OS 3.1 not the best for ROM 3.0. Mostly it's okay, but there are some missing functions. One for gfx.

[Linde]

What Golem said.

And Vanilla, I'm pretty sure that the installer is available on the Workbench disks, and it's not that hard to enable. Just put it in the Utilities folder. No need to go into rant mode

[motorollin]

The IDEfix install icon just specifies "Installer" as its default tool, so putting it anywhere in the path should work. On OS3.1, Installer resides in the C: directory, so overwriting the file C:Installer with the one from Aminet should work.

@caesar
Please open a shell and type the following command:

version c:installer

then post the result.

[ceaser]

Check if the icon doesn't specify a path for the installer (SYS:Utilities is the correct location).

K I'm trying this first.  Someone else saying it's SYS:C but that wasn't doing anything.  I think SYS:Utilities and SYS:Expansion are the only SYS: dir I didn't try it in yet :/

@caesar
Please open a shell and type the following command:

version c:installer

then post the result.[/QUOTE]

ok i'll post the result

[ceaser]

The IDEfix install icon just specifies "Installer" as its default tool, so putting it anywhere in the path should work. On OS3.1, Installer resides in the C: directory, so overwriting the file C:Installer with the one from Aminet should work.

@caesar
Please open a shell and type the following command:

version c:installer

then post the result.

Installer 43.3

[motorollin]

It's installed properly then. Try this. Single left click on the "InstallSoftware" icon in the IDEfix directory. Go to the Icons menu and select Information. In the Information window that pops up, change the default tool to "C:Installer" (without the quotes) and then click "save". Then double click the installer again.

[ceaser]

i already tried that

I get guru error when i change the icon's path to C:Install

Before I installed this new installer, 43.3, it was guru error every time i double clicked.

i got to goto bed.

[motorollin]

Oh sorry. Ok, in the shell CD to the directory where the IDEfix installer is. Then type

c:installer installsoftware

and see if that works.

[ceaser]

Oh sorry. Ok, in the shell CD to the directory where the IDEfix installer is. Then type

c:installer installsoftware

and see if that works.

no need to be sorry.  no it's not working.  all i can do now is do fresh workbench install a 3rd time and i don't really know man.  really no clue.  i never had this much problem with installer before.  Had some games where I had to edit some line or create a DIR but never had something screw up like this when I try to install.  i really wish i could just get an ide fix that has an installer on it but i downloaded the one everyone says to get, idefix97 from aminet.  and i did a protect idefix97.lha +RWED then the lha_68000 e idefix97.lha on the amiga.  So it's not like it's corrupted unless the file from aminet was bad to begin with but i don't think so.  i don't get it anymore.

[Golem!dk]

i already tried that

I get guru error when i change the icon's path to C:Install

Before I installed this new installer, 43.3, it was guru error every time i double clicked.

i got to goto bed.

No wonder, C:Install is a shell command used to make a floppy bootable. But try to run installer in a shell, just to verify that it works.