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Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« on: July 04, 2009, 07:20:24 PM »
Just wanted to ask Blizzard PPC users out there what type of chip they have on there Blizzard ppc cards. I have four cards of which three (Phase 5) are Ball Grid Array(BGA) and a recently acquired card (DCE) which has ceramic quad flat pack (CQFP). The DCE card is the only one I have seen with this style PPC Package. Has anyone else seen this.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 07:49:59 PM »
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Just wanted to ask Blizzard PPC users out there what type of chip they have on there Blizzard ppc cards. I have four cards of which three (Phase 5) are Ball Grid Array(BGA) and a recently acquired card (DCE) which has ceramic quad flat pack (CQFP). The DCE card is the only one I have seen with this style PPC Package. Has anyone else seen this.

Well, the BPPC PCB was designed to house both types of CPUs. Obviously this was made so that P5/DCE could use whatever CPUs that were available at the time of board fab run (PPC CPU availability has always been quite bad).
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2009, 08:17:25 PM »
I noticed that before but I have never actually seen anything other than BGA. I was curious if this was uncommon. I think this is better for repair as its much easier to replace the surface mount version. This board per your program reports 210mhz version two board. It does not however report serial number and the sticker is missing. I can not check the chip number as someone glued the fan/heatsink to the chip and I don't care to try and take it off since it works great.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2009, 09:52:47 PM »
CQFP is the smallest version with 166/175 Mhz. Some are overclocked at 210 MHz.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2009, 10:18:15 PM »
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CQFP is the smallest version with 166/175 Mhz. Some are overclocked at 210 MHz.

 Does Smaller mean that they are more prone to overheating?
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2009, 11:28:12 PM »
Not really, they just have another package because they stay cooler than higher clocked chips. The plastic case would melt thats why BGA have ceramic case. Since your cooler is glued on the cpu is very likely that you have a CQFP.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 12:14:35 AM »
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CQFP is the smallest version with 166/175 Mhz. Some are overclocked at 210 MHz.


You mean slowest version not the smallest right. Because this chip is bigger than the bga version. This thing extends to the edge of the circuit board pad on the Blizzard ppc. The bga version is quite a bit smaller, only covers about half the area.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 12:28:20 AM »
yes, slowest.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 10:46:23 AM »
im typing this with a blizzard ppc clocked at 298Mhz.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 03:48:01 PM »
There was an old rumour (or fact..) that some guy replaced the 603 with a G3 and it work for a few moments or something. Would be cool to do it but at the price of this boards noone's gonna try. There's an italian company that can do BGA replacements, you just have to send them the stuff. The name was ATE I think, don't know if they still do it though...
It still probably wouldn't be such a breakthrough because the memory contorler on the BlizzardPPC sucks...
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 03:58:22 PM »
I have two new PPC603evFB200r chips. None of my boards have died So far, but if any of my boards quit working I might try one of these. I love to have spares for everything.
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 05:45:28 PM »
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im typing this with a blizzard ppc clocked at 298Mhz.

I'm typing this with a Mac Mini G4 clocked at 1.58GHz ;)
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 06:04:32 PM »
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I'm typing this with a Mac Mini G4 clocked at 1.58GHz ;)


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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 06:42:33 PM »
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I'm typing this with a Mac Mini G4 clocked at 1.58GHz ;)


does it have amiga OS,if not your not playing fair
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Re: Blizzard PPC 603e Chip BGA or CQFP
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 07:07:09 PM »
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does it have amiga OS,if not your not playing fair


I strongly suspect Piru's machine is running some flavour of MorphOS 2.
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