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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2003, 04:27:41 PM »
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The rumours of OS4.0 and A1 has spread cross the internet, more and more lost Amiga users keep coming back, the memberlist of amiga.org and other sites keep growing, and everybody`s expectations are at highest level....

Has the snowball just started to roll?


This is what the world thinks everytime Amiga cries wolf....

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2003, 04:31:17 PM »
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. AmigaONE/AmigaOS4 is more amiga than pegasos/morphos will ever be.... unless genesi manage to buy out AmigaINC that is..


The AmigaOne is a MAI teron CX resells by Eyetech.
The Pegasos is desgined by bPlan (ex-Phase5) and made by DCE.

The only amiga part in AmigaOne is the name.

Which one is more close to the Amiga ?
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2003, 04:37:20 PM »
when you start seeing countries putting a ban on "windows" and throwing it out of its land, I'd say Amiga has a great out look at this point. If governments are getting enought of windows then I supect that most people have had well over enought! Amiga I believe will soon see its wish/dream come true... :-)
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2003, 04:38:36 PM »
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     Once AmigaOS4 PPC software comes out will MorphOS be able to run them?  I'm doubtful that this will be the case.   I'd be interested in a lower cost PPC hardware, perhaps Pegasos-II, running AOS4.

There is no point to make OS4 running under a Pegasos  II while you have MorphOS.
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   But, if I want the look and feel of an Amiga, but can't have an Amiga, why would I choose MorphOS over AmigaForever?   Especially if AmigaForever runs the same software and faster?  Sure it's not PPC but I don't care I get more performance and a much greater performance/$ so what's the overriding factor to choose MorphOS?

Well, you have to use Windows to use AmigaForever, it's not that I call a real alternative...
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 The want is an Amiga, because that's the OS I like the best.

Then you will like MorphOS, TEST IT !
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MorphOS preparing for the future --- questionable if it'll be able to run OS4.x PPC software any better then OS4 will.


When I say prepare for the future, I mean I speak about the future Q-Box.
Well, for the moement, there are a lot of more MorphOs native software than AmigaOS4. So it should be better to be MorphOS compatible.
Moreover, MOS is compatible with PowerUP and WarpOS.

If you haven't already, you should really test MorphOS, it's like the AmigaOS in a user point of view. Just FFFFFAAAASSSSTTTTEEEEERRR

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2003, 04:54:47 PM »
by Brianew on 2003/10/26 11:15:51


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I haven't been following AROS much. But, if I can freely replace x86 hardware without long periods of waiting for drivers to be updated or worse no driver updates, such as the Geforce4, it might be an option.


Go grab the latest AROS ISO CD and take a look for yourself since it's self booting. =)

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2003, 05:02:51 PM »
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How many of those will be ready to live with just RTG-SW ? SW they often never used back in their days ?


That's the sad truth of the matter. 70-80% of the software that made me love the Amiga so much has no chance of running on new Amiga hardware without UAE.
But would you want to? And would you pay hundreds of pounds to run 10-15 year old software? What sort of software do you mean?

For games, I'd say it's better to run under UAE. Firstly, you can run them under the OS, rather than having to shutdown all your applications and reboot into the game. Secondly, whilst UAE has compatibility problems, it seems to be a lot better in general at running old software then current modern day Amigas are.

Things like SoundStudio are a problem though, I agree. It's a shame that it never supported AHI. I wonder if something can be done like happened on Amithlon, where calls to paula are remapped to the sound card?
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2003, 05:11:33 PM »
Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2003, 05:17:07 PM »
@NicoPPC:

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The AmigaOne is a MAI teron CX resells by  Eyetech.

The Pegasos is desgined by bPlan (ex-Phase5) and made by DCE.

The only amiga part in AmigaOne is the name.


Could you please stop to turn this thread into another MOS vs. OS4 mess.

This thread is about Amiga's future. If your definition of "Amiga" includes MOS, then talk about MOS'/Genesi's future - if not, keep out of the thread.
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2003, 05:18:36 PM »
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The AmigaOne is a MAI teron CX resells by Eyetech.

That is mostly true, but the same thing is happening in the pc world... many pc manufactors use standard motherboards, then rebranding them under their name.
I have heard though that there are some minor differences from the teron boards..
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The only amiga part in AmigaOne is the name.

that and the fact that it is officialy licensed by AmigaINC.
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Which one is more close to the Amiga ?

Since AmigaONE is licensed while pegasos is not, then AmigaONE is still most amiga... thats the way things works, does not matter who orginally produced the board.. I am not saying that Pegasos is a worse choice than AmigaONE though.. It is probably a very nice board and MorphOS sounds like it is a very nice OS.

I still personally want the AONE just because i want to run OS4. That is if it ever drops in price... too expensive for me now  :-(

Genesis should really focus on advertising Pegasos/morphos as a totally new platform, instead of trying to be the next Amiga
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2003, 05:19:23 PM »
cgutjah:
yes i wish i was an moderator , i would have cleaned up all theese MOS VS AOS4 / AOS VS MOS threads.

Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2003, 05:21:10 PM »
This thread is about the future of AMIGA, and everything related, (os4.x, software, hardware eg. A1) and NOT MorphOS.
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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2003, 05:23:02 PM »
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and if DCE / bplan is amiga fan's then..ROFL!

That is another reason why i do not choose pegasos over amigaone... They managed to get themself a VERY bad reputation by screwing their customers before.. Though good they are trying to change this now, but this is not yet enough for me.
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2003, 05:30:36 PM »
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Genesis should really focus on advertising Pegasos/morphos as a totally new platform, instead of trying to be the next Amiga


I agree on this, 100%


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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2003, 05:37:34 PM »
@lempkee

And where would we be without Phase5 ? Without all the Blizzards, Cyberstorms ?
Without the Cybervision and CGX ?

Have a look at the Atari-scene to get a clue .....

Do you really think laire or Garda made a fortune with the P5-bancruptsy ?
Think again, they have been victims of that, even to a far bigger extent than
everybody. Before you reply, it would be good if you could check out how
Phase5 was organized (hint more than 1 company), and who managed to get
his head out while he was 90% responsible for the mess.

The connection between Genesi is far weaker than the one between AInc and
Hyperion/Eyetech (Genesi can just change to another production-line), and
AInc is just as bad if not worse than DCE.

I choose to stick on the blue side, cos those are the people who made it
possible that Amiga didn't turn 100% retro in 1995 or so.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2003, 05:46:50 PM »
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why i do not choose pegasos over amigaone


Considering the horrid quality of Hyperion's games, I'm surprised you've chosen any side over the other.  Their games didn't work on half the PPC cards advertised, but that never stopped them from selling them.  Hyperion is just as well known for defective products, and there are a lot of people still waiting on patches from them (that will obviously never come).
 

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Re: A bright future for Amiga?
« Reply #44 from previous page: October 26, 2003, 05:47:48 PM »
Well, in the future MS look certain to lock-out non-MS OS's from the x86 (and successor) series hardware!

The Terron/AmigaOne PPCs are the biggest-selling non-Mac PPC hardware! Don't forget that the motherboard can be bought cheaper for purely Linux running!

The motherboard/system prices will come down as production runs >10,000 occur!

India and China are going to be the fastest growing IT markets, and its fairly certain that non-MS answers will be eagerly sought out!
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