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NTL turns back on Linux users
« on: October 15, 2003, 11:51:28 PM »
NTL has cut off Linux users from its Freedom dial-up ISP service after imposing new dialler software that only runs on Windows and the Mac OS.

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2003, 11:52:57 PM »
Thats just ridiculous ....  :-o
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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2003, 11:56:39 PM »
*Bastards* ... Just as well I'm on BT !!
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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2003, 12:02:42 AM »
aye, I was told that a few days ago when I had to phone up NTL to inquire about the dialup number change. I was furious with the guy on the other end of the phone. He was like a robot and didnt have a clue. All I wanted to know was what was the new dialup number... He tried to get me to go through setting up a temporary dialup account to download the new "super software". After following his instructions for a few minutes before completely loosing my rag and telling him where he could shove his help I went on my travels around the net and fould a wonderfull place known as www.nthellworld.com I found that there was really no need to change the dialup number at all rendering the "super software" completely useless.

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2003, 12:04:04 AM »
Heh. Got an NTL advert leaflet dropped through my letterbox today, offering me broadband at half the speed I get now and nearly the same price.

Wan#ers!

Since I use Linux (and other non-Windows systems) I'd have to be nuts to even consider them after this, even if their broadband does work with Linux. One week's notice that your service is being terminated is hardly sufficient.

Boycott NTL.   :-P  :-P  :-P
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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2003, 12:05:39 AM »
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*Bastards* ... Just as well I'm on BT !!


Hmm.... It seems like you've learnt to *swear* :-P  :-D

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2003, 12:21:51 AM »
NTL suck anyway. No-one would use their service unless they had to or didn't know better. They offer a very poor service, they have a 1GB download cap, and there is a lot of downtime. Also the proxy service they offer is often as slow as hell, but you'd probably have to use it to get around their enforced proxy.

In case that's not clear enough:

AVOID NTL!!!

BT is almost as bad, but not quite. In fact, in the UK, internet is in the stone age.

I strongly recommend Telewest's Blueyonder service for anyone living in cable areas in the UK. They don't enforce proxies, there are no caps, there is no downtime, you always get your full bandwidth, you can connect with any system that supports DHCP, and they don't spam you or profit by sending your email off to all and sundry. In fact their service is almost perfect. In other words, the opposite of NTL.
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2003, 12:22:25 AM »
iv had almost no trouble with NTL Kenny must just have been listening to RobinC too much, he certainly has never used it

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2003, 12:30:15 AM »
@KennyR

Do you have any data to back up your claim about downtime?

My NTL cable connection is fairly stable; it might be down for a couple of hours every few months (and things seem to be improving), and I don't ever get random disconnections. OTOH I've seen people on other ISPs (including blueyonder) suffering from downtime and disconnections fairly often.

NTL do have their problems - things like the 1GB cap (which they didn't even bother to tell their customers), and the customer service is useless. But the actual connection seems pretty good for me.
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2003, 12:38:00 AM »
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iv had almost no trouble with NTL


You're one of the people who tell me all the bad things about NTL, like the proxies. :-P
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2003, 12:41:01 AM »
mdwh2, don't listen to me, listen to the users.
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2003, 12:46:41 AM »
thats a XP and/or cnet.device issue nothing to do with NTL
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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2003, 12:48:43 AM »
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they have a 1GB download cap


Been downloading something around 3-4 gigs per day for months now and not had a warning yet, i did get a warning for uploading stuff to newsgroups but that was my own fault.

I was hoping to move BB provider but will wait for NTL to send a downloading warning first.
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2003, 12:52:01 AM »
ntl generaly works fine although like any isp it has its downtime which usualy isnt that long.

as for the 1GB cap, its only enfoced if ya getting more then a gig a few days in a row, then ya lose the net for a day.   nothing much to worry about unless ya doing non stop downloading ;)Too many times and ya get a formal warning ;)
 

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Re: NTL turns back on Linux users
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2003, 12:58:01 AM »
@KennyR

Sure, there are NTL users who have problems. Is there evidence to suggest that these outnumber problems on other ISPs?