Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[meerschaum]

@DaveP

so what do you suggest? we just forget all that we've heard about Amiga.inc and give them the credit we would any other company???... that sounds a bit insane comming from you of all people who professes to be soundly grounded in 'logic' and 'moderation' and whatnot... how can you expect people to ignore and stop referring to past events?... thats part of life... you're judged by your record...

if the soda tastes like poisen its probably poisen and if it  continues to taste like it... stop drinking it, stop buying it, and warn others about it!

thats a good metaphor for this current situation.

@All

the biggest fault with this update is 'why now?" if Bill could have posted updates and is indeed in contact with all etc etc etc... why hasnt he been making updates regulerly? why havent we heard more about others things?... I dont trust it one bit....

[Mikey_C]

Poster: bhoggett Date: 2003/8/21 16:26:15

I talk to anyone, but that doesn't stop me calling a spade a spade when I see one.

Indeed even if by doing so you come across as a pathological hypocrite?

As to your other points, I have decided that my post count on here is too low, so I guess i'll stay and see it rise a bit more.

BTW, Would you be so kind as to produce some of my "Blatantly false accusations" that I make at Amigaworld.net?

A few links perhaps?

Mikey C

[DanDude]

Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk...

That's all I'm gonna say on this site...
 :-(

[DanDude]

Oh, BTW, I lost ALL interest in MorphOS and Pegasos as of today.  True story.

[Paul_Gadd]

If your going to leave then leave instead of going on with yourself and attacking this site.

[meerschaum]

the sad thing that NOBODY seems to realise on the red side is that by getting AmigaDE on Pegasos/MOS it makes the Peg/MOS actually a gainful product for Amiga.inc, they would make money from AmigaDE sales to Peg/MOS users, I dont see where the anger against it comes from. It seems childish and backward minded.

[Merko]

To everyone posting complaints about this site, and complaints about
those complaints being deleted from this thread:

Why don't you start a new thread on that topic? Do that, post your
criticisms without any swearwords or personal attacks, and I'm sure
they won't be deleted. This thread is about something else, get it?


Two observations about bbrv's post:

1) Note that he says that AInc's legal counsel "decided to [...]
validate the license for the Pegasos and AmigaDE."

About the Garry Hare statement: Note that bbrv writes that "Garry Hare
was brought in *to be* the Chairman and CEO. He was."
(my emphasis on "to be")
The only reasonable interpretation of this statement is that whoever
is in the power to do this, intended to put Garry Hare as Chairman and
CEO, but that this never happened. Why not? I don't know. Maybe
because Garry Hare did not want to defend AInc in court?

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Where has all the fun gone?  :-?

[DanDude]

Poster: tekmage Date: 2003/8/20 21:23:42

I to am concerned that Bill would go with an EULA threat. It's obvious that this situation is causing much stress on Amiga Inc and Bill personally. When I first read through the comments I did not understand to what "Bucket" was responding to. Though the comments did shed much more light on the statement from Bill McEwen.

@Kees

Thank you for trying to keep amiga.org honorable in all this but I think your failing

@ Wayne

I think what you did was an abuse of your power and in appropriate and make's Kees job much harder

@ Downix

Please think before you post. If your typing something which you know you will retract just don't post it.

@ Ray A Key

Snice your now perma baned from Amiga.org your welcome to send any appropriate, non flame, non trolling comments to me and I'll paste them in to any thread you wish.

@ Amigians

Give it time friends, time will tell which is the best solution. Keep the faith!

Bill "tekmage" Borsari

DAMN!!!

Can I join your fan club, plz?  :-)

I knew at least someone would keep the Amiga faith going!  Rock on, dude!   :-D

[DanDude]

Poster: Kees Date: 2003/8/21 5:02:43

I have never praised Bill Buck !

AMEN!!

[Mikey_C]

Amiga.org? this site is the most biased 100% pro Genesi  site ever to grace the Amiga scene, with sites like that it shows what sort of measures some wacky people will go to protect/praise a company to the death.

So if your going to be staying on this site then do it but don`t make yourself sound even worse by going to a worse site unless of course you get a stiffy for Genesi, which you clearly do so this place will suit you and the rest of the zombies.

Mikey C

[Bobsonsirjonny]

@ Mikey_C

It's just not worth it.

[SlimJim]

the sad thing that NOBODY seems to realise on the red side is that by getting AmigaDE on Pegasos/MOS it makes the Peg/MOS actually a gainful product for Amiga.inc, they would make money from AmigaDE sales to Peg/MOS users, I dont see where the anger against it comes from. It seems childish and backward minded.

Well, for once I agree with you, despite your unfortunate
behaviour of labelling people this or that. A wider user base
for AmigaDE is always good and Pegasos/MOS users seem
a natural group to include, being such a close branch of the
native AmigaOS community. I can only assume this "deal"
has some inbuilt financial drawbacks for AmigaInc, or that
is takes resources they cannot spare. In short, there must
be some drawback we don't know about.
 
I've still not understood exactly what the deal is about -
McEwen says "We have not agreed on porting AmigaDE to
the Pegasos", this suggests the deal is that it's
AmigaInc that is to do the work of porting. How come
bbrv claimed (apparently) that "porting was already under
way"? Or did I misunderstand that?
.
SlimJim

[DanDude]

Poster: Mikey_C Date: 2003/8/21 6:15:39

having just chatted with Ray Akey, he assures me that his Amiga.org password was a mixture of lower and uppercase and that it wasn't a dictionary word....

So, GOD wasn't the password...

*fingersnap*


damn...   :-D

[bhoggett]

@Merko

Two observations about bbrv's post:

1) Note that he says that AInc's legal counsel "decided to [...]
validate the license for the Pegasos and AmigaDE."

No, no, you misread it. AInc's legal counsel decided to drop the counterclaim. They have not decided to validate the license. There's a big difference.

About the Garry Hare fiasco: I think neither side has revealed all they know about that episode. Certainly I don't think the story from Genesi is complete, and Amiga Inc have pussyfooted and avoided giving a proper answer to a ridiculous extent..

[Mikey_C]

Bobsonsirjonny

No you are right it isn't worth it.

I would have been fine, had it not been for the fact that first of all Ray Akey gets banned for something Trivial. Bill Buck posts here with impunity, despite his "morons" comment

Then I get all the personal attacks against me. I came here to partake in discussion. However, it has now turned into a personal attack against me.

You watch, second, I over step the line against someone, I'll get banned. Yet when I'm being victimised, it's open season.

Mikey C