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Offline ksk

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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2003, 02:38:48 PM »
amigaguy:
"It sounds like good news, but being as you can get a 3+Ghz X86 chip ...  how fast will x86 be running when these PPC chips come out? Some where at 6 to 10GHZ? Maybe more?"

If schedules do not fail too badly, there should be PPC980 @ 3Ghz available year from now.

And if Alan Redhouse wins in lottery a few times, we might see PPC970 on A2 already in y2005???   :-P
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2003, 03:01:33 PM »
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right now how fast will x86 be running when these PPC chips come out? Some where at 6 to 10GHZ? Maybe more?


I doubt it. 3GHz is quite a significant heat barrier so far for x86, and modern x86 3GHz chips have enormous coolers and fans just to stay running. Unless Intel and AMD do something about this heat problem, a 6GHz CPU will need a small refridgeration unit at about 300W to run. Not what I want for a home computer.
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2003, 03:14:52 PM »
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And if Alan Redhouse wins in lottery a few times, we might see PPC970 on A2 already in y2005???


Well BBRV is talking PPC970 for the Pegasos III for next year.  I guess there's no use talking about the AmigaOne until OS4 is out  :-?
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2003, 03:17:28 PM »
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A 1.5GHz POWER4+ can outgun a P4 running at 3.2GHz...
And thats on SPEC FP marks where Intel gets to throw in it's favorite compiler...


URL please?  I'm having difficulty finding any PPC results on the SPEC site.

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I've found a few results, amusing:

Intel P4 CFP2000 benchmark

IBM Power4 CFP2000 benchmark

Btw, you need to read the specs of the machines first!
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2003, 03:28:43 PM »
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URL please?  I'm having difficulty finding any PPC results on the SPEC site.


http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/cpu2000.html#SPECfp

Just compare IBM (pSeries) to Intel.

Here's Apple's recent SPEC benchmarks (not revealed on SPEC.org just yet):

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/

With the Power4 being the big daddy to the PPC970, there's no doubt that the Power4+ is no slouch :-D
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2003, 03:51:14 PM »
Perhaps you should pick a slightly more reputable source for your Power5 benchmark? :-)
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2003, 04:01:13 PM »
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Perhaps you should pick a slightly more reputable source for your Power5 benchmark?


You talking to me?...  I didn't show any Power5 benchmarks.  And 'reputable' is irrelevant here since SPEC.org doesn't take any responsibility/accountability for results submitted READ THE DISCLAIMER!
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2003, 04:21:08 PM »
The second URL you submitted has Power5 benchmarks, and the previous URL, have you read the specs of the machines?  The Power4 SPEC URL is just one of the ones I checked out...
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2003, 04:24:22 PM »
Which page are you talking about?  The SPEC.org one, or the Apple one with the PPC970 benchmarks?  I threw the Apple one in to spice up the forum :-)

Of course I'd rather see Apple just submit their SPEC numbers to SPEC.org to avoid anymore 'conspiracy theories'  :-D
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2003, 04:27:34 PM »
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he second URL you submitted has Power5 benchmarks, and the previous URL, have you read the specs of the machines?  The Power4 SPEC URL is just one of the ones I checked out...


I didn't actually inspect what the IBM pSeries machines had equipped, I just knew that the Power4s had to be in there somewhere.

At the end of the day, it's pointless to compare a desktop chip to a server chip since they both target 2 different markets.
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2003, 04:40:10 PM »
Ooooo.....I am beginning to drool!  ...and going to save money for that!

AHA!  So newer Intel chips require bigger heatsinks, eh?  They definately be good enough to cook your meals in your kitchen oven!  hehe
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2003, 05:23:31 PM »
Whomever even tries to compare a POWER4 or POWER5 to a Pentium 4 is really being an idiot.  The POWER series is designed for heavy-duty processing, as well as high-reliability.  Frankly, it's like comparing a Ferrari vs an 18 wheeler.
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2003, 05:49:48 PM »
@downix

Yes the 18 wheeler allways wins ....

1. It's bigger, and we all know that size does matter.
2. It's faster ...... yes it is faster ! Push down the pedale in mid rush-hour and
watch all those small Hondas giving space  ;-)
And now try that with a Ferrari (a rented one preferably)  :-o
3. The 18 wheeler can take 12786 6packs home.
The Ferrari only 10 or so.
4. When you want to proove 1., you got a big bed in the 18 wheeler, while you have to
search for a dry and hidden lawn if you go out with the Ferrari.
5. The 18 wheeler has more power.
6. The 18 wheller wil take diesel, and we all know that that is much cheaper
than unleaded super gasoline  :lol:

Nuff said, I'm of to buy a 40t truck  :-D
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2003, 06:05:19 PM »
Reminds me of my step-father when he was shopping for trucks.  He was discussing with one of his co-church-goers going to Boston, and someone went "wouldn't you be intimidated by the traffic."  

His line is one of the best I've heard him utter:

"In a Peterbuilt, I *DO* the intimidating."
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2003, 07:15:33 PM »
Ahhh, yer all a bunch of speed demons.. :crazy:
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Re: Power 5 to hit 3GHZ, but thats just for starters
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 11, 2003, 07:27:38 PM »
My Truck ..



Believe it or not ... Car drivers actually DO try to muscle us out of the way !!   :-o    They fail to grasp that it wont be just a little bump ...... More like .. Globules of human flesh scattered over the highway !!  ( Ask a Fireman)
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