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AROS Status Update
« on: May 27, 2003, 12:00:18 AM »
Another whole month has gone by, which means that it's definitely time for another status update...

Read more about it, and also check the screenshot showing the Zune real time gradients in action!

 

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2003, 02:06:17 AM »
wow :) zune is looking prettier and prettier!!! :)

Just wondering, Zune is MUI based. MUI recently had an updated. AROS and the MOS teams have been known to exchange code, or help out in areas...

Would i be wrong in assuming that both teams or all three teams (MOS, AROS, MUI) helped out each other or something similar to get the gradients working on these platforms?
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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2003, 02:13:39 AM »
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Just wondering, Zune is MUI based.


Only if by "MUI based" you mean that it's a MUI reimplementation :)

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MUI recently had an updated. AROS and the MOS teams have been known to exchange code, or help out in areas...

Would i be wrong in assuming that both teams or all three teams (MOS, AROS, MUI) helped out each other or something similar to get the gradients working on these platforms?


Yup, you'd be really wrong :) We don't get MOS' own proprietary code, we only get bug fixes to the code WE give them, and sometimes also some new code, but which was already open source.

--- EDITED ---

CISC, of the MOS fame, just made me notice that they've also contributed back their packet implementation (DOS library stuff). However, that implementation has not made it to the AROS source tree and probably never will, for reasons related to design decisions

--- /EDITED ---

I've implemented gradients in Zune all by myself, 2 days ago.
 

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2003, 03:23:10 AM »
Well, goes to show how much i know :) Just a nice coincidence it seems.

BTW - can i download avaliable development tools like gcc for AROS... I had a look at the manuals on your site, but it doesnt really explain (yet) how to use GCC or get it for wither nativ-i386 or linux-i386

I would love to start writing on AROS as GCC 2.9+ on AmiOS on UAE P@ 400 is pretty slow... :(
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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2003, 03:50:33 AM »
Neither of the 2 PC isos work on my system still :(
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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2003, 03:57:33 AM »
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BTW - can i download avaliable development tools like gcc for AROS... I had a look at the manuals on your site, but it doesnt really explain (yet) how to use GCC or get it for wither nativ-i386 or linux-i386


There's currently no native gcc availabe for AROS. To code for AROS you need to use the crosscompiler which is built on the fly when compiling AROS itself. You can find it under AROS/bin/-/tools/ and it's named --aros-gcc. Replace with your cpu model (most likely i386) and with your operating system (most likely linux). Use that compiler as if it were a native one.
 

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2003, 04:36:56 AM »
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There's currently no native gcc availabe for AROS. To code for AROS you need to use the crosscompiler which is built on the fly when compiling AROS itself. You can find it under AROS/bin/-/tools/ and it's named --aros-gcc. Replace with your cpu model (most likely i386) and with your operating system (most likely linux). Use that compiler as if it were a native one.


Just as a suggestion, it might be a good idea to point this out on the aros website (unless its there and i missed it). I was looking in the manual for "application dev on AROS". Right or wrong place, who knows... oops, maybe i should have checked the FAQ's?
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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2003, 12:12:35 PM »
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Neither of the 2 PC isos work on my system still :(


This isn't good  :-(

Does the floppy image work?

Have you tried your CD-RW (CD-R) on any other machines?

Have you set your BIOS to boot from the CD drives?

Have you ever booted your machine from CD before (Ie. a linux or windoze install CD)?

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2003, 02:46:08 PM »
I Should correct myself AROS don't work on my system, the CD boots.  Both of them do as in nightly build & snapshot.

> Does the floppy image work?

Last one I tried did

> Have you tried your CD-RW (CD-R) on any other machines?

Nope

> Have you set your BIOS to boot from the CD drives?
> Have you ever booted your machine from CD before (Ie. a linux or windoze install CD)?

It boots, just the nightly build brings up workbench & a shell then freezes & the snapshot freezes with the pointer in the top left of an all black screen.

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2003, 03:53:49 PM »
Someone pinch me  :-D I must be dreaming.. Just burned the latest iso, booted it.. and it worked *gasp* If you Aros guys pull this off, why not Amiga themselfes, sheesh :-P

The power of the x86 cpu and the smalleness of the Amiga OS.. should be a wet dream for everyone   :lol:
 

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2003, 05:07:14 PM »
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Someone pinch me  I must be dreaming.. Just burned the latest iso, booted it.. and it worked *gasp* If you Aros guys pull this off, why not Amiga themselfes, sheesh  


Nice isn't it  :-D

The AROS devs are a very very talented lot of people, and they work for the only reward of seeing people using an AmigaOS clone on hardware of their choosing (be that x86, PPC, 68k, ARM... etc...)

This is why I have supported the project for the last 4 years, and I hope other will enjoy it too!

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2003, 05:09:24 PM »
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It boots, just the nightly build brings up workbench & a shell then freezes & the snapshot freezes with the pointer in the top left of an all black screen.


This is most perplexing... ok, it looks like a list of your system specifications might be helpfull.

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2003, 05:33:09 PM »
Hi,

The latest Aros ISO boot cd works fine on Vmware on my Compaq laptop but running it native does not. Mousepointer is stuck in the left upper corner and it will not move. Anyway, I will give the flops a try too and I will use Linux to run it.

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2003, 05:45:23 PM »
AROS is probably the best long-term solution Amiga(genre) has... I assume it runs on X86-64(or will eventuallyu?) if so it'll be here for 10 years! or more...
 

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Re: AROS Status Update
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2003, 05:56:58 PM »
> This is most perplexing... ok, it looks like a list of your system specifications might be helpfull.

Gigabyte GA-7VAXP
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Netgear FA311 (to cable modem)
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A mac mini running MorphOS
A1200,  TF1260 (NoFPU) & ne2000 networking
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2xCD32
A1200 mobo (Dead, black screen)