Microsoft game pack in COMPUSA national flier.

[Paul_Gadd]

Amiga Inc are just glorified criminals who are up to their necks with all this stuff and use their fans as emotional shields

I wonder what other illegal activities those guys are involved in.

You would think they would stop after fraud and deception but no they will keep at it until they have enough money to run away.

[PulsatingQuasar]

104 comments :-?

On such an, in principle, uncomment worthy piece of news!!! :roll:

I didn't read it but probably 15 to 20 people are talking about the crap from last week again whilst this really is minority talk.

No one is going to hear you people!

95 % of the userbase isn't really interested in this crap or hasen't even heard it. Have you all so less to do that you can waste your time on convincing other people that are not going to be convinced.

 :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?

[AmigaHeretic]

@PulsatingQuasar

Have you all so less to do that you can waste your time on convincing other people that are not going to be convinced.

I'm at work, so no I have nothing better to do

[Hammer]

OS5 will be the AmigaOS running natively in that AmigaDE environment. This paramount goal will have AmigaOS running everywhere. The argument that 'AmigaDE is not an Amiga' does not hold up here, it is moreso an Amiga than AOS3.X running in an amiga emulator. OS5 will bear a resemblance to the earlier Amiga OS's and will bear ultimate scalability. It certainly will be more Amiga-like than MOS/AROS.

Sound like the current AmigaOne situation i.e. the machine** is ready but the AmigaOS 4.0 is not ready for RTM (Released To Manufacturing).

**Referring to Tao's Virtual Processor and related technologies.

[Hammer]

NDA stands for 'non disclosure'

Everyone else,
Borland
Microsoft
Sun
IBM

they build exposure for their products.
they want reviews
they encourage sales.

Not all of Microsoft's projects are available to beta testing public e.g. MS Windows 2000 64bit Alpha**  Edition (use for internal development) (unless they are leaked).

**For the DEC Alpha processor platform .

[Hammer]

1) Is the DE an Amiga, or even Amiga-related ? Only by name.

Sure it is nice tech, but it is not even as close tio being "Amiga" as RiscOS/PC,BeOS/BOX or even QNX. Suggesting it would be more "Amiga" than MOS or AROS is just insane.

Unlike the ‘other’ products, DE has a official development future with Amiga. A scenario similar to the AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4.0.

[z5]

@Wayne:

You take me far too literally, but I -- like most people who try to expose the truth -- am feeling rather crucified in this situation.

Bringing out the truth can be good, if
- the evidence is substantial and true
- you know what you are doing and thought of the implications it will have
- you do it for the right reasons

(and NO, i'm not saying you lack one of the above;-))

I would like to know the truth too. Keep one thing in mind though...a team of 30 or so people have been doing their best to make OS4 a reality. Have you thought on the implications it may have on that project (i hope you have)? I really don't hope that your personal crusade against AmigaInc (as this is a personal thing, i think) will not damage OS4. Because, fact is that it will have consequences on that, whatever the contract between both parties.

[Hammer]

Like I said, it's a good thing that they got SOMETHING out. I just don't understand why Microsoft doesn't just set up a department to work with TAO to write the stuff.

That would involve extra manpower being allocated for yet another project. Note that dotNET Linux port was being “outsourced”(i.e. contracted to an other company). Microsoft has limits in regards to availability of manpower, funds and time.

Microsoft is thinly spread from creating MS Games (e.g. under Anvil label)(both X-BOX and X86 Windows PCs/Servers), Official MS driver support, MS Office product families, MS Visual Studio families, MS Operating systems families**, MS related services (e.g. Bcentral, MSN and etc).  

 **On going product development of Anvil (a.k.a. Windows XP/2003 AMD 64 families**** and Longhorn (the next generation of Windows).  
Does anyone notice the relationship with MS’s games Anvil label (e.g. Freelancer) and Anvil code-name for Windows AMD64 Edition? (Another topic)

As with any human enterprise, Microsoft has limits.

[Jose]

"@Amigaguy

You take me far too literally, but I -- like most people who try to expose the truth -- am feeling rather crucified in this situation."

Then change your avatar.
Anyway, why does those proves take so long to get?
Not saying they don't exist, I just can't follow these discussions anymore.

[Argo]

I assume they are Judical Information Requests to the Washington State Courts System along with other information request to other Washington State agencies. It'll take some time. Though it would be nice it if was all online.
Surf over to http://www.wa.gov or http://www.courts.wa.gov and see what you can find. The information request is a downloadable form.

[AmigaHeretic]

re: censor -> no humor

Tough crowd.  I worked really hard on that for 5 minutes in Perfect Paint.  Oh..well....

AmigaGuy

[HMetal]

@mips_proc

Evasiveness?  I think not.  All it takes is for you to realize that when something is posted on the OFFICIAL AMIGA SITE with BILL'S SIGNATURE/TAGLINE on it, then it was written by Bill himself as has been the case since day 1.  I'm sorry to say that Bill doesn't have a speech writer.  That was a different Bill, who had a certain now infamous intern. :-)

Deny it all you want, but this is fact.

Answers to the rest will just have to wait until Amiga's ducks (both legal and corporate) are all in a row and then you'll see resolution and announcements to resolve them.  That's all I can say about it at this time.

[System]

Answers to the rest will just have to wait until Amiga's ducks (both legal and corporate) are all in a row and then you'll see resolution and announcements to resolve them. That's all I can say about it at this time.

Wow.  I must be getting paranoid in my old age, because I see this as a threat.

[HMetal]

@Wayne

WTF??!  A threat to whom?   Hey, stay away from the green buds, they're making you paranoid (or are they?). :lol:

[DanDude]

[color=0000FF]Bravo![/color][/b][/i]    :-)

[meerschaum]

well HMetal when I say evasive I mean that before in another thread I asked if Bill wrote/typed or conveyed Bills update and you didnt say 'yes he did' ..you said it was offical...but not that those where his own words... maybe I misunderstood if so I'm sincerely sorry...but it seemed a bit evasive in my opinon...

I'm glad to hear amiga will be clearing things up... do I believe it? I'll believe it when I see it... but for now its better then a puff of smoke...