Pegasos to go on sale Monday / Pegasos II to ship September 2003

[takemehomegrandma]

Neither the PegasosOne :-) or the AmigaOne was IMO positioned as a mass produced desktop computer (read: wintel replacement). Hence, no mass production yet ...

[Alkemyst]

Not that I'd call myself a fanatic, but although I'm having rather mixed feelings about this, I think we do anyway have to give Genesi credit to be fair enough to tell this everyone in advance - instead of continueing to produce and sell Pegasos-Ones until the Pegasos-II is on sale.

You can call your self what you like but your actions speek for them self.
 
It dont make sence not to sell Peg untill Peg 2 is out.
 
You hold the users with what you have untill the next is ready.

that would be like

MicroSoft would never stop selling the Windows-XP now cos they will have a better one in 6 months time.

It just dont work that way.

No one does that.

[takemehomegrandma]

@ amigamad

amigaone will be around in larger numbers than this .

Let's hope so. And let's hope that some people will actually buy it (to the price they are asking), despite the fact that newer and better products will be around the corner from some competitors! ;-)

[Dan]

Indoro wrote

Our products go beyond a Pegasos board. They are an integration of elegance, harmony, and balance with custom hardware and software that make them a viable solution in many markets. They are what Amiga is meant to be, a hardware product that defines the industry in the future...

Only if Amiga was meant to be thinair
 which it sure sounds like you are trying to sell :lol:

[takemehomegrandma]

@ Alkemyst

The cards are on the table for everyone to view. If you do not want to buy a PegasosOne ;-) then you don't have to. But then you will have to wait. If you want to start developing for the future products right now, there will be a limited chance to get the PegasosOne hardware before it is sold out completely. Buy now or wait. Your choice!

[Alkemyst]

@takemehomegrandma

Sorry but your action here says to me that you dont really think what has happened is a good thing.

You have your Peg unlike some unlucky others

But yet you sit here & have posted a hell of a lot on this thread & have been hitting the reload button no doubt & have nearly replyed to every  post on this thread.

I have seen your trend when Aone or Aos4 held back for what ever reason & you have hammered down.

But now its on the other foot your tone is now trying to sound more of a person of fair & realistic reason.

But that dont count cos that is not what you were willing to show with Aos4/Aone delays.

Where are all thoses MOS ppl now saying dont wait for Aone-XE/Aos4 get a peg.

But now its OK to ask ppl wanting a Peg to wait even longer but it was not ok to ask ppl to wait
for an Aone/Aos4

[Dan]

Neither the PegasosOne or the AmigaOne was IMO positioned as a mass produced desktop computer (read: wintel replacement). Hence, no mass production yet ...

But how many people is willing to invest in new Amigacomputer? Are we truly reduced to a few hundreds
?
this feels like we are sad an pathetic like the last atarians  :boohoo:

Well let´s hope AmigaDE Inc goes into liquidation so hyperion can make AmigaOS4 for everyone wheather they own A1,P1,P2, x86 or  whatever

[Paul_Gadd]

Total joke, nothing in the Amiga market is serious anymore, delay after delay after delay after delay after delay and now they expect the users to wait.

All Amiga companies need to get their act together for once and start producing something instead of this madness which will cost them in the end.

And you people call Microsoft LOL.

[System]

Pegasos boards won't be available to any customers until September and this is supposed to be a good thing?

I dont think their doing any worse off then the competition...

[System]

We the AmigaOS 4.x fanatics (them who has the money) might get dual G4 in some weeks ... The MorphOS fanatics might be lucky to get single G4 in some month  

how can you be an AmigaOS fanatic and have a PPC board that dosent run AmigaOS?... I mean until Hyperion creates this OS (wich was due out how many times now) will you run Linux? ... I can run Linux right now on a PC

On a more serious note... I think that Pegasos2 sounds cool but I do think its a setback that they didnt at least allow some time to pass before revealing its existance.
I hope Pegasos/MorphOS dont go under...if they did I'd have nothing left to play with... as I've decided I wont get an AmigaOne because of the rom/dongle...

So I do hope that they are able to at least get 'one' of these boards produced in enough quantity to give all the people in the MorphOS community a system.

[strobe]

It seems Genesi is going to get the first boards in the hand of developers and by the time they sell the P2 they may have a more complete widget to sell.

What happens happens. This is likely due to their difficulty in obtaining northbridge chips. I'd like something more concrete in terms of what the P2 will be.

Oh well.

[Senex]

It dont make sence not to sell Peg untill Peg 2 is out.

Well, my personal *speculation* is aimed at MAI. For the very last 400 "old" Articias Genesi do have their April-1. But this chip, as far as I know, is difficult to mount on the boards. And if maybe now they have again found a bug also in the new Articia-design or if the old bugs are only fixed unsatisfyingly in it (maybe just as a kind of integrated April-solution instead of a complete and therefore maybe more expensive redesign of the Articia to really remove the error), then of course it would mak more sense for Genesi to completely switch to a different northbridge. Because an unsatisfyingly fixed Articia-redesign would give them less performance, I'd say. And if they'd even still need a (even new to design) April(2 or 3)-chip for future boards, it would make even more sense, since this difficult to mount solution obviously wouldn't qualify for mass-production. And last but not least MAI's supply shortfalls would be a supporting reason to change the northbridge completely.

[Senex]

And I think it's a good move from Genesi and their partners to not stay where they currently are but instead make a step into the future with advanced hardware specs.

Yes, especially given the recent fears of some people, Genesi could become STB-only. This new, more modern Pegasos-II-board obviously is a clear commitment to stay in the desktop-market as well.

[anarchic_teapot]

Pegasos boards won't be available to any customers until September and this is supposed to be a good thing?(/quote]
I dont think their doing any worse off then the competition...

The competition? There are already G4XEs out there.
I'm sure the G3 Pegasos 1 is a nice little beast, but in the end it's turned out to be no more upgradeable than the A1g3SE (also a nice little beast). It would have been more honest not to publicise a  upgrade for 200 euros before finding out the thing wasn't upgradeable.

[Kay]

> as I've decided I wont get an AmigaOne because of the rom/dongle...

:-? How does the dongle detract from the value of the AmigaOne?

Kay

[ikir]

Pegasos2? :-o

Cool 8-)