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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2003, 12:50:46 PM »
 
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well, it's not a huge thing, but a decent mp3 player, replete with visualisations and easy management of playlists, similar to latest versions of WinAMP.


Under AmigaOS 68k, Amithlon, MorphOS you can use SongPlayer. It's the best audio player as I see.
amigadev.free.fr/songplayer/

It features:
- MP3 support
- OggVorbis support
- others format aiff, ...
- CDDA support
- playlist

Visual effect ? to come

Ok, I'm (with a friend) the actual develloper of that soft :-)

Bye
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2003, 12:54:13 PM »
@ Nicolas

I might check that out, thanks!
I like Amigas
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2003, 03:40:27 PM »
just support the AmigaONE and release it already...then for the next version, I would like to see ODBC or OLE-DB support.  

.NET architecture, similar to the mono project on linux.

OK, thats enough for now :-)

will never happen, of course.
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2003, 04:53:34 PM »
Complaining about the t-shirt is dumb. Everybody knows, including the people who bought them, that they weren't buying a t-shirt. It was a partial payment on a new Amiga.
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2003, 05:18:05 PM »
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by Cymric on 2003/10/3 12:19:02
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Simple price: $500 at most.


Hmmm - for the OS?! :-)

My votes go to:
"Office" applications
Compliant we-browser
PDA synchronisation utility
Video editing software
Music editing software
Fully documented development environment

i.e. Stuff that can be used on a daily basis, along with niche stuff that will get OS4 used in professional industries.
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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2003, 05:21:34 PM »
Free games! Like minesweeper or soliataire.
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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2003, 05:28:19 PM »
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Free games!


I have to disagree here ;) I would like to see commercial games, all kind of commercial games, ported or not, I don't care, just to be able to run on AOS4.

later,

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2003, 06:18:32 PM »
May I also suggest a free coffee mug?
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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2003, 06:21:36 PM »
the most important application is a decent web browser.
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2003, 06:36:43 PM »
Immediate efforts in:

1. Cool GNU stuff: a decent SSH client. Not sure what the current state of existing SSH client is. Perhaps it is fine as it is. PuTTY would suffice.

2. X sever (or client, if you prefer). If I had good SSH/XF86, I could use my miggy as my main PC and shell to my x86 trash box as necessary.

3. The GNU dev tools. GCC 3.3 & friends (binutils, gmake etc.). geekgadgets projects list - some more of these could be polished/worked on. I see that m68k GCC 3.3 is in an "alpha" directory. Cool :-)

4. More cool GNU stuff. It will be hard to get used to AmigaOS again after being in Linux land for so long... perl, sed, awk, grep, find, cat... too much to list, but you know what I'm talking about.

5. GTK+. There is work on this already.

6. Abiword. Gotta start small, get something out the door. OpenOffice would need a herd of super mega turbo psycho killer monkeys. I've downloaded the source and had a "look" (HAHA!). *scary*. It would take months to learn their special coding conventions, policies, techniques, let alone the OpenOffice architecture. Apparently it's a whore to debug.

Considering the Macintosh team expect to be 12 months behind Solaris/Linux/Win32 with OOo 2.0, our poor miggy has buckleys with a native Reaction port of any sort... anything that could eventually be ported would be a X11 hack.

7. Mozilla. Anything mozilla.

Everything else, email, IRC, it's basically there in Amiga land already and I'm sure will be updated with a flurry of activity once AmigaOS4 is out the door so there won't be too much need to port *everything* from GNU land, IRC, email, downloaders, MP3/OGG players, etc.

8. But finally: most hardcore coders seem to shun glitzy IDEs, but I only like to use vim for making quick hacks/modifications from the command line when I couldn't be stuffed launching Anjuta and navigating a project tree... (emacs can go away :-) For the long haul I like Anjuta (I've said this before).

Providing a complete package of Anjuta, GCC3.3 for PPC, with working SDL/OpenGL/GTK/Glade/ReAction templates (oh yeah, that would need glade as well..) would be great, a platform has to have at least one glitzy IDE and it might as well be Anjuta! (although VICE or something would probably be easier).

Failing Anjuta, I'd be happy with a port of Scite, based on Scintilla, used in the Anjuta editor... cool syntax highlighting with nifty keybindings and a compiler output window.

I'd like to chuck in wxWindows too since I think it's a technically brilliant product, but the effort required could probably be "better" spent elsewhere (damn).

I'm going to code as much on AmigaOS4 as I can when I get it... I can envisage myself starting with trying to help with the GTK+ port as long as (1) is met first.

Items 1 to 4: These are probably not of interest to general users but would help set up a good working environment for developers.. or at least it's what I want before I start "work" :-) (5) is the key to a lot of free GNU/GPL software.

About (3) - I've had crazy ideas that perhaps Cygwin could be a good starting point - call it CygAmi ;-) I wonder if a magical Perl script could magically turn all the Cygwin code into AmigaOS4 PPC binaries :-D (magically).

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2003, 06:55:09 PM »
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by SHADES on 2003/10/3 13:02:02

After everyhing is taken into account, the one thing I really would like to see is

AMIGAOS-Server
Or some other multi client ability.


That's beyond the scope of AmigaOS. The best I am hoping for is SMP support. That is going to be tricky.

Leave the boring server stuff to the ones who do it best - *nix. DHCP, DNS, ftp, web servers, email, nfs, file serving, multiple remote clients (ssh, XFree86) - all these things have taken years to mature and have had thousands of coders behind them.

For AmigaOS, we want games and multimedia - probably only thing Amiga can possibly hope to aim for and not get laughed off the stage for trying. Remember when Macintosh weenies tried to tell you their MacOS7/8/9 boxes were a server of *any* sort and you laughed so hard you made them cry? No? Ok perhaps it was just me, but like Macintosh Sys. 7/8/9, AmigaOS is not a server OS. Not even a little bit. We should not try to be something that we are not.

SMP? Hopefully. Multiple profiles? Maybe. Multiple remote GUI logins with networked user accounts NIS/LDAP style? Don't think so. A NAT/Firewall for your office LAN? Sure you could, it's your loss - that's what old junk P166MMXs are for!



AmigaOS puts the Personal in PC. I think it would be great for Games/Multimedia/Surf/Email/Word processing. The other option AmigaOS has is some sort of embedded market. Petunia could even replace the Tao elate VM/bytecode stuff in the AmigaDE (to some extent!) and AOS4 could be ported to some other CPU (Motorola Coldfire, Hitachi SH4, ARM) but still have binary compatibility via Petunia.

I could certainly see an AmigaOS powered phone or PDA of some sort... of course, getting it into industry means testing, standards compliance, support&service&guarantees, development kits that don't suck, and marketing to OEMs while competing with every other Tom, #### and Harry's embedded "RTOS"...

Of course, this all drunken ramblings of a sedated madman...



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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2003, 07:25:46 PM »
Seeing as it looks like this has turned from OS to apps, here I my Apps:-

A decent code editor, with syntax colouring, auto indenting, and bracket/brace matching.

A KHTML based browser like Safari, small and fast.

An iTunes style Music package, CD/MP3/Rip/Internet radio package without all that skinning nonsense and decent playlist compatibilities

An iPhoto style digital camera album/download program

An updated version of WebPlug, perhaps with CSS suport and using XHTML rules (the tags are a little mixed in current versions).  Webplug is simply excellent.

An RTF word processor, doesn't need to be flash, just to be able to handle different fonts/colours, lists, tables and pictures (the RTF spec allows for all these).  things like a spell checker, wordcount etc. as well.

As you can see I'm pretty heavily influenced by the Mac, but what ever you say about Apple, they do good software with the OS.

 I *need* things like Photoshop, Director, Soundforge, Premier, Final Cut, Illistrator and others to do things for my degree, but I'm a realist :-D
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2003, 07:32:16 PM »
BeOS style Replicants.
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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2003, 07:42:10 PM »
Release date and sales! :-/
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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2003, 08:09:50 PM »
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well, it's not a huge thing, but a decent mp3 player, replete with visualisations and easy management of playlists, similar to latest versions of WinAMP.


WinAmps crap IMHO. I think RealOne player, MusicMatch or the mac players are far  better.
 

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Re: What would you like AMIGA OS4/xx to have out of necessity
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 03, 2003, 08:11:26 PM »
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T_Bone wrote:
BeOS style Replicants.


That sounds interesting, what are they?