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Offline anarchic_teapot

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2002, 08:18:08 PM »
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Jedi blithely channelled:
Do you know that Pretory is a great success ?...

Um, which Pretory would this be? Pretory USA, which had to convince its creditors, which it couldn't pay, to let it convert their accounts payable into share capital?
Pretory SARL, which has never filed a set of annual accounts in 5 years, despite its being a legal requirement?
Pretory SA, with a net result for 2000 equal to only 0.64% of its sales, debts equal to more than half the capital plus reserves, and negative cashflow?
AT
 

Offline ackcontrols

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2002, 12:41:18 AM »
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When you will figure out that the articia is crippled and that the Amigaone won't work maybe you will understand that YOU SPREAD FUD


You're so full of sh*t that your hair and eyes must be brown.  By  calling the Articia chip "crippled" you are spreading FUD you silly little FSCKWIT.  I've been using my AmigaOne practically daily since I got it in June and haven't even seen this elusive bug.  I'm not going to claim it doesn't exist, but its FSKING miles from being crippling.  Go hide under your MorphOS bridge you satchel licking troll.
 

Offline Hammer

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2002, 01:34:06 AM »
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I still say AmigaOS is doomed as it is, exactly because it wasn't OSS'd. Let's see here, supposedly Amiga Inc had WB 1.x - 3.1 and then H&P has WB 3.5 and 3.9. Then we have Hyperion with AOS 4.0 an supposedly, according to of your more fanactical zealots, AOS 5.0 work has been started by Amiga Inc. If this isn't clearly a mess to you on who owns what, ask your Puppet Master to explain to you why I say it is. Had Gateway released AOS/WB as open source under some appropriate Gateway license, we would not have this mess and a doomed OS.

Purely subjective statement, eh Dammy?
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Offline Hammer

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2002, 01:50:13 AM »
@jedi

>Who says insults ? who spreads misinformation or >FUD ? who continues the war ? who is blind ?...
Your words.

>The great PowerPC Pegasos is ALREADY HERE,
Not with "Apirl" fix...

>The great PowerPC Pegasos is ALREADY HERE,
The application of "great" is pure subjective.

>I know that is easy to say what you want when >peoble are misinformed on forums like this (by >some famous specialists of misinformation), >especially when their passion forces them to >believe blindly only on the "official" way and the >simple "Amiga" name (aka the >Hyperion/Eyetech/Amiga Inc. group).

One can learn many things from non-official Windows 3.1 compatible (OS/2 Warp) VS official Windows 3.1 compatible (Windows 95) war. Brand names can’t be underestimated.
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Offline Hammer

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2002, 01:58:00 AM »
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They can't afford to protect Bernie so they can make money off of sales of his work.

Bernie is just a licensee, Ainc has no obligation to protect Bernie.  

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? DE was an interesting idea, but its Tao's IP, not theirs.

Not the value added items.
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Offline dammy

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2002, 05:47:44 AM »
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Poster: MikeB Date: 2002/12/5 14:40:35

@ Dammy

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No kidding! Where the hell did I ever say AOS was open source to begin with? Hint, I never have.


What I said at the time was that, if you believe open source to be the only possible and interesting future, why are you an AmigaOS or Amithlon fan, as both have been closed source since day one. I was just suprized to see my own arguments as yours.


I realize it's difficult for you to think with being told what to think by your Puppet Master, but I'll give it a shot anyways.  It's inmaterial if I like AOS (closed) or Amithlon (closed and open) if it's going to succeed.  What I have said was, without AOS becoming OSS'd (with whatever license that still protects it from commercial explotation like H&P have apparently already done) it's never going to reach critical mass.  Not only that, who wants to take another bath on developing for an OS that's owner is usually in deep financial troubles and is likely to go under, yet again.  If it was open sourced, then developers could be assured AOS would still be around, and therefor users would continue to be around, regardless of the owner's financial condition.  

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I still say AmigaOS is doomed as it is, exactly because it wasn't OSS'd


And I believe the OS would be commercially doomed if the OS would be open sourced (which may also be impossible to do, due to 3rd party licensed code).


Third party coder's portions could be deleted and allow other developers to write a open source license replacement.  As a commercial OS, it's not only doomed already, it died awhile back.  WB 3.9 sales shows us that.

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So, we disagree. The fact of the matter is that we don't own AmigaOS, so we cannot give the OS away or decide to open the sources.


Give it time, $5 maybe the winning bid in a few months. ;-)

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IMO it would be very stupid to do this at this point, as Amiga Inc first had to pay millions of dollars for their IP and afterwards rivals could easily abuse their IP.


That has to be one of the most funnest things you've said in a long time.  Here is H&P, no license for WB 3.9 nor AmigaXL/Amithlon and Amiga Inc is just sitting there, stinking up the joint as it rots away.  A probably near perfect example of what you said would be wrong, and here it is coming to pass with a closed sourced OS.

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Anyway your insults will continue no matter what, so further discussion with you would be useless. And actually I was only curious to know why you are trying to paint yourself of as a moralizer (especially within recent threads), and it is now obvious that you are just faking.


I'm more then willing to STFU, if you an Luca do the same.  I can accept the war is over and the mop up battles will wrap up in a month or two.  I can freely agree that we need to come together at the end and be unified.  Pity you, your Puppet Masters, and Luca can't let the go of your elite standing in Amiga Inc that is about to be defunct.

Check with your Puppet Masters and Luca, then get back with me.

Dammy

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Offline System

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2002, 10:21:56 AM »
Where is this GREAT MorphOS????????
Some days ago, I read an article of somebody who tryed this system, sying that it's full of errors and not very stable.
You know what I think they want to join forces for? They want help from Eyetch and Hyperion to get OS 4 running on Pegasos, because their MorphOS won't run well in the near future and they need a "real" OS for their hardware.
 

Offline jedi

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2002, 10:33:14 AM »
@siciliano:

Come back when you will know what you say.

Or come to Aachen to test & use yourself MorphOS in live on the Pegasos.

But sorry, in Aachen you won't test & use AmigaOS4 in live on AmigaOne since AmigaOS4 is not ready...
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Offline jedi

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #83 on: December 06, 2002, 10:41:49 AM »
"Some days ago, I read an article of somebody who tryed this system, sying that it's full of errors and not very stable."

When was published this article ?...

Are you sure its writer is impartial and objective ?...

Have you * recently  tested  yourself * MorphOS on Pegasos ?...

And do you think that AmigaOS4 * on AmigaOne * has today no errors and it's very stable ?...
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Offline Elektro

Re: Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarification
« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2002, 06:36:57 PM »
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